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  3. The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.

The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.

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  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

    Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself

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    #12

    Oh cool yeah my bad you can't zoom the page

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    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

      RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

      The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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      #13

      @jonny

      I'm into the "worried about his family" stage with Yegge.

      He's used "addiction" in the past to characterize his relationship with chatbots, and described then as "energy vampires".

      In this article he explains that he's hiding his usage from his wife, and that while the setup with a bunch of Google For Domains sock puppets would probably be a ToS violation for other people, it isn't for him because [🤷🏻‍♀️].

      Just casually calling out several diagnostic criteria for addictive behavior right at the start of his grandiose rambling essay full of esoteric terminology, as you do when you're definitely not in a manic state.

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      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

        Oh cool yeah my bad you can't zoom the page

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        #14

        Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

        (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
        https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

        the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

        I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

          Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

          (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
          https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

          the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

          I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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          #15

          @jonny the difference being the drugs actually work 😉

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          • eestileib@tech.lgbtE eestileib@tech.lgbt

            @jonny

            I'm into the "worried about his family" stage with Yegge.

            He's used "addiction" in the past to characterize his relationship with chatbots, and described then as "energy vampires".

            In this article he explains that he's hiding his usage from his wife, and that while the setup with a bunch of Google For Domains sock puppets would probably be a ToS violation for other people, it isn't for him because [🤷🏻‍♀️].

            Just casually calling out several diagnostic criteria for addictive behavior right at the start of his grandiose rambling essay full of esoteric terminology, as you do when you're definitely not in a manic state.

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            #16

            @eestileib
            Yeah, jinx, i knew I had recognized that kind of addicted rambling tone from another internet venue...

            https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/117038811678149256

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            • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

              @jonny the difference being the drugs actually work 😉

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              #17

              @Lazarou @jonny and don’t destroy the planet while stealing everything

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              • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                @jonny the difference being the drugs actually work 😉

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                #18

                @Lazarou
                I would say that when I have let myself truly sink into an LLM that the drug effect of it certainly "works" - it certainly induces a profound sense of accomplishment and getting things done. I have tread delicately but I 100% understand how easy it is to generate a feeling of constant rapid progress when you just let go

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                • iain@kolektiva.socialI iain@kolektiva.social

                  @Lazarou @jonny and don’t destroy the planet while stealing everything

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                  #19

                  @iain @jonny I've always said a lot of the World's problems can be solved with the right drugs! They threw me out of the UN for it, but I stand by it! 😉

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                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                    Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself

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                    #20

                    @jonny I can confirm Dyana is a human, probably the most senior volunteer GM from what research I've done

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                    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                      @Lazarou
                      I would say that when I have let myself truly sink into an LLM that the drug effect of it certainly "works" - it certainly induces a profound sense of accomplishment and getting things done. I have tread delicately but I 100% understand how easy it is to generate a feeling of constant rapid progress when you just let go

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                      #21

                      @jonny I've heard LLM use to be likened to using Cocaine, and I can really see that.

                      My one experience with coke was "well this is great but superficial and now my heart is beating a lot"

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                      • tael@yiff.lifeT tael@yiff.life

                        @jonny I can confirm Dyana is a human, probably the most senior volunteer GM from what research I've done

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                        #22

                        @tael
                        I hope they get paid at least some stipend

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                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                          @tael
                          I hope they get paid at least some stipend

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                          #23

                          @jonny Hahahahaha

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                          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                            RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                            The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                            #24

                            @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                              #25

                              @davidgerard @jonny but some of them are whales, David, whales!

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                                #26

                                @davidgerard @jonny it's going to be a billion dollar business.

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                                • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                  Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                                  (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                                  https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                                  the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                                  I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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                                  #27

                                  @jonny like this right?

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                                    #28

                                    @davidgerard @jonny @zzt Bet there’s a DikuMUD server still running from 1996 that has twice that many active users right now.

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                                    • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                                      @davidgerard @jonny it's going to be a billion dollar business.

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                                      #29

                                      @huronbikes @jonny *billion token

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        @huronbikes @jonny *billion token

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                                        #30

                                        @davidgerard @jonny I was looking for the quote and I did find where he admitted burning billions of tokens. I then realized that he referred to "Sam Altman's solo unicorn contest" and further realized that "solo unicorn contest" sounds a lot like a euphemism.

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                                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                          RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                                          The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                                          #31

                                          @jonny What to me is doubly funny is that long ago Level 9 released a single player game on Amiga/Atari ST/etc called Knight Orc set in a MUD. It's got no modern AI, runs entirely on the machine and fakes a whole MUD player set more convincingly than this.

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