We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.
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@samueljohnson @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl
That's not entirely correct.To reiterate:
Instead of diversifying the business after the outbreak of war in 2022 (i.e., seeking more customers in Europe or the USA), Aughinish Alumina's management actually massively increased exports to Russia.
While Russia accounted for only about 23% of exports in 2020, this share rose to an estimated 68% to 70% by 2024.
The government tolerated this?
Please stick to the point (locale), Samuel.
@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl Nothing you have just written contradicts a word of what I wrote. Take your own advice please.
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@Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl "In matters of death, SPECTRE is strictly impartial"
@ahltorp @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
That's amusing, and I'm always up for something amusing/sarcastic.But Putin isn't impartial.
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl This is simplistic. There isn't a country in Europe that isn't trading with Russia either directly or indirectly. Some are importing hydrocarbons. Some are exporting goods via 3rd parties in Turkey and elsewhere. Anyone would think Ireland was exporting weapons. It isn't. Alumina is also used for other things. The Irish govt will take action if and when EU sanctions include alumina. So far that hasn't happened.
@samueljohnson Who is "the EU"? Who specifically makes that decision?
(Along with decisions such as banning tourist visas for Russians, to take an example closer to me...)
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@samueljohnson Who is "the EU"? Who specifically makes that decision?
(Along with decisions such as banning tourist visas for Russians, to take an example closer to me...)
@Veza85UE You use the EU flag as an avatar but haven't a clue how EU decisions are made?
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@samueljohnson Who is "the EU"? Who specifically makes that decision?
(Along with decisions such as banning tourist visas for Russians, to take an example closer to me...)
@samueljohnson For some unfathomable reason, juvenile petulance was chosen instead of an answer. Good morning.
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl Nothing you have just written contradicts a word of what I wrote. Take your own advice please.
@samueljohnson @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl
Don't want to repeat her words now.But I wrote:
"Not quite right." – please read!
The government will – and this is the point – focus on Russia as a customer. Couldn't the government have prevented this without the EU?
But the discussion is moot, since we’re actually of the same opinion.
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl This is simplistic. There isn't a country in Europe that isn't trading with Russia either directly or indirectly. Some are importing hydrocarbons. Some are exporting goods via 3rd parties in Turkey and elsewhere. Anyone would think Ireland was exporting weapons. It isn't. Alumina is also used for other things. The Irish govt will take action if and when EU sanctions include alumina. So far that hasn't happened.
@samueljohnson @SamsenBdRi @connynasch @randahl EU should definitely be more thorough. Yes, other companies and countries are doing the same, but it doesn’t justify it. It doesn’t hurt to call out what companies and countries are doing. I have trouble to understand the lack of morality. I do feel sorry for the workers, because for the leadership all will probably work out fine, while they are responsible for bad decisions in the past.
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@samueljohnson For some unfathomable reason, juvenile petulance was chosen instead of an answer. Good morning.
@Veza85UE @samueljohnson @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl
"No, presumably not really, we are all on the same side: Ukraine/Europe/World Peace
️— and on the side of the Irish workers 
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@ahltorp @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
That's amusing, and I'm always up for something amusing/sarcastic.But Putin isn't impartial.
@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl But Ireland is.
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl But Ireland is.
@ahltorp @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl But Ireland is.
@ahltorp @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl ”Fortunately, our capital outlay has been handsomely offset by the result and sale of armaments and missiles. You will note, that we have supplied both to rebels and government forces, on an equal basis. In matters of death, SPECTRE is strictly impartial.”
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We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.
The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.
Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.
https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms
@randahl why to seize the company, the company didn't do anything illegal. It literally says in the text that the product is legally exported to Russia.
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@SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl This is simplistic. There isn't a country in Europe that isn't trading with Russia either directly or indirectly. Some are importing hydrocarbons. Some are exporting goods via 3rd parties in Turkey and elsewhere. Anyone would think Ireland was exporting weapons. It isn't. Alumina is also used for other things. The Irish govt will take action if and when EU sanctions include alumina. So far that hasn't happened.
@samueljohnson @SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl Everyone standing around and waiting for each other to acts is the same as complicity. Acting in concert is better, but every country needs to act even if the others don’t.
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We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.
The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.
Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.
https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms
@randahl there is always something about Ireland...
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We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.
The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.
Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.
https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms
@randahl Yeah, too many power hierarchies favor war and death, as opposed to its opposite.
Does anyone believe in evolution anymore?
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We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.
The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.
Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.
https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms
@randahl wtaf
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@Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
The problem would be comprehensively resolved if the EU were to carry out its work thoroughly. Nevertheless, the local workers and people would still be adversely affected—because all those in positions of responsibility failed to act with foresight and human dignity.@SamsenBdRi Those 2000 jobs... you know what, fuck them. The rest of the EU is ramping up a large build-out of new energy infra; if they can't find a use for aluminum in that then I have to question whether they're being honest.
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or the powerlines of the factory needs a visit from some ole lads that were good at explosives in more turbulent times of Irish history...
That's an assinine, and thoughtless comment thats betrays a simplistic and misguided understanding of Irish history. Be better.
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