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  3. A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

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  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

    @artemis I don't know why.

    And I'd say "why are people complying at all?".

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    #11

    @wwahammy @artemis Everyone involves in proposing and merging these needs to be deemed untrustworthy and unwelcome in real FOSS.

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    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

      @wwahammy @artemis Everyone involves in proposing and merging these needs to be deemed untrustworthy and unwelcome in real FOSS.

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      @dalias @artemis 1000% agree. It's shameful.

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      • gnoll110@ruby.socialG gnoll110@ruby.social

        @wwahammy

        The whole thing is a Trojan horse.

        That goal, destroying any remaining anonymity, and thus damaging freedom of speech and the ability to speak truth to power.

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        @gnoll110 1000% agree. We need to fight this shit with our last breath.

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        • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

          @wwahammy why the fuck are people complying in advance? Where is the commitment to software freedom?

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          #14

          @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

          Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

          artemis@climatejustice.socialA sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.socialS crypticrainfall@app.wafrn.netC ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA heyla@toot.communityH 8 Replies Last reply
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          • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

            @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

            Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

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            #15

            @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

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            • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

              A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

              This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

              https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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              #16

              @wwahammy I'm 66. Hope the applications operate slowly and speak more clearly. Also, stay off my lawn

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              • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                @dalias @artemis 1000% agree. It's shameful.

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                #17

                @wwahammy @artemis Like seriously. Even if you weren't going to consider complying with this unthinkable, adopting something like this that's a policy matter should be a process that requires a proposal and feedback from the community, with a long enough time window for that to happen. Not rushed-through changes by shadowy actors who show up just to do what some malicious external authority demands.

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                • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                  @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

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                  #18

                  @artemis @smn @wwahammy What if you are Californian? Could get you in legal trouble.

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                  • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                    @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

                    Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

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                    #19

                    @smn@l3ib.org @artemis @wwahammy
                    DON'T FUCKING COMPLY at all. In advance or otherwise.

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                    • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                      @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

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                      #20

                      @artemis @smn @wwahammy a few have updated their licenses to exclude uses in jurisdictions with those requirements. Not sure what California could do if they caught you using an OS not licensed to use in CA, but while they might be able to punish the user they can’t touch the provider

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                      • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                        @artemis @smn @wwahammy a few have updated their licenses to exclude uses in jurisdictions with those requirements. Not sure what California could do if they caught you using an OS not licensed to use in CA, but while they might be able to punish the user they can’t touch the provider

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                        #21

                        @ShadSterling @smn @wwahammy it's a nightmare. What's particular irking me rn is that the 'Freedom' brigade that have been SO vocal during the height of covid are now totally silent on draconian laws that will actually limit real freedom of speech. (surprise, surprise).

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                        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                          A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                          This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                          https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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                          @wwahammy Of course, the "spam" they're talking about is people signing up to tell them that this is madness.

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                            #23

                            @wwahammy @ShadSterling @smn we are rapidly getting to a point (some would argue past a point) where resistance, for us white folks who've had little skin in the game, is going to mean real consequences and confronting the fact that the law is an ass.

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                              #24

                              @wwahammy @ShadSterling @smn well yeah. Slightly different from where I sit (in Australia, having seen the 'sovereign citizens' on the socials, whining about face masks and traffic violations, rather than the political figures. They're just absent. )

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                              • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                                @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

                                Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

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                                #25

                                "It's not going to be repealed," ok, but like, can we? Can we build a plan to get this reversed? I'm about to complain on the daily to my state reps, because I sure as hell didn't ask them to pass it, and they sure as hell didn't let me know this was even in the works.

                                If I got backing, I'd even do the work of getting a prop going to repeal this, I'm not even joking. Or should some other options be explored first? Is anyone else taking these steps? Can anyone hear me? Where is the pushback against this?

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                                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                  A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                                  This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                                  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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                                  @wwahammy
                                  "Some things are silly AND evil, like candy cigarettes."

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                                  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                    A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                                    This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                                    https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

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                                    #27

                                    @wwahammy these are definitely not unknown people. I guarantee you every single fucking one of them is a Meta or Google employee.

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                                      #28

                                      @wwahammy there's no fucking way that these commits are not directly linked to Meta and their ilk. Absolutely none at all. These are the only companies besides IBM with the staff, and the only ones with the vested interest, as well as a LONG history of hiding, minimizing, or straight up lying about their involvement in things.
                                      If the IPs aren't from Meta's ASN, they're employees using their home connection again, something the company has ordered them to do for breaking the law for example.

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                                        #29

                                        @wwahammy @artemis @smn it does, but I don’t think that license change is meant to be a whole solution, and I’m not sure what better thing those orgs could do.

                                        Until it is stopped, maybe it would be better if the ones not located in California just ignored it; it’s not like they can impose California law on the entire world

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                                        • frumble@chaos.socialF frumble@chaos.social

                                          @artemis @smn @wwahammy What if you are Californian? Could get you in legal trouble.

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                                          @frumble @artemis @smn @wwahammy Ok. Now I'm actually concerned of USA. Are you people there OK? Like slowly your country moves to China like spy land. 😞

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