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  3. A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

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  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

    This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

    https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

    k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK spirit@cybernetic.monsterS artemis@climatejustice.socialA gnoll110@ruby.socialG martyb4@mastodon.socialM 29 Replies Last reply
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    • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

      A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

      This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

      https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

      k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @wwahammy wtf… these are current maintainers???

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        #3

        @wwahammy can’t we fork it prior to that commit and maintain a separate fork?

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        • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

          A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

          This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

          https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

          spirit@cybernetic.monsterS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@wwahammy/116264430375745593

          @wwahammy the possibility of a free Internet is gone unless we start punishing these people.

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          • yrrsinn@chaos.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @wwahammy @k3ym0

            I found this a good write-up https://www.sambent.com/the-engineer-who-tried-to-put-age-verification-into-linux-5/

            powerfromspace1@mstdn.socialP zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ sstrader@masto.aiS cy@fedicy.us.toC 4 Replies Last reply
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            • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

              A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

              This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

              https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

              artemis@climatejustice.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @wwahammy why the fuck are people complying in advance? Where is the commitment to software freedom?

              wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW smn@l3ib.orgS 2 Replies Last reply
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              • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                @wwahammy why the fuck are people complying in advance? Where is the commitment to software freedom?

                wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @artemis I don't know why.

                And I'd say "why are people complying at all?".

                dalias@hachyderm.ioD hweimer@fediscience.orgH 2 Replies Last reply
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                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                  A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                  This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

                  gnoll110@ruby.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @wwahammy

                  Ok, everyone, we're all born on 01-01-1970!

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                  • gnoll110@ruby.socialG gnoll110@ruby.social

                    @wwahammy

                    Ok, everyone, we're all born on 01-01-1970!

                    wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @gnoll110 I know that's a common attitude but in effect, kids who are honest get harmed by their computer. The operating system of a computer should never be designed to purposely harm you. I don't think that's the case anymore with Linux if this nonsense becomes a reality.

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                    • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                      @gnoll110 I know that's a common attitude but in effect, kids who are honest get harmed by their computer. The operating system of a computer should never be designed to purposely harm you. I don't think that's the case anymore with Linux if this nonsense becomes a reality.

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                      @wwahammy

                      The whole thing is a Trojan horse.

                      That goal, destroying any remaining anonymity, and thus damaging freedom of speech and the ability to speak truth to power.

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                      • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                        @artemis I don't know why.

                        And I'd say "why are people complying at all?".

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                        #11

                        @wwahammy @artemis Everyone involves in proposing and merging these needs to be deemed untrustworthy and unwelcome in real FOSS.

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                        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                          @wwahammy @artemis Everyone involves in proposing and merging these needs to be deemed untrustworthy and unwelcome in real FOSS.

                          wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @dalias @artemis 1000% agree. It's shameful.

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                          • gnoll110@ruby.socialG gnoll110@ruby.social

                            @wwahammy

                            The whole thing is a Trojan horse.

                            That goal, destroying any remaining anonymity, and thus damaging freedom of speech and the ability to speak truth to power.

                            wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @gnoll110 1000% agree. We need to fight this shit with our last breath.

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                            • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                              @wwahammy why the fuck are people complying in advance? Where is the commitment to software freedom?

                              smn@l3ib.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

                              Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

                              artemis@climatejustice.socialA sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.socialS crypticrainfall@app.wafrn.netC ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA heyla@toot.communityH 8 Replies Last reply
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                              • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                                @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

                                Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

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                                @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

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                                • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                  A small set of people are merging changes to various Linux components to make sure every application knows your birth date.

                                  This is being done rapidly by people with questionable justifications and being merged with no youth and few marginalized people involved.

                                  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/-/merge_requests/176#0b07c0cc4d49be119f65cdb2037440f56eed647a

                                  martyb4@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @wwahammy I'm 66. Hope the applications operate slowly and speak more clearly. Also, stay off my lawn

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                                  • wwahammy@social.treehouse.systemsW wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @dalias @artemis 1000% agree. It's shameful.

                                    dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @wwahammy @artemis Like seriously. Even if you weren't going to consider complying with this unthinkable, adopting something like this that's a policy matter should be a process that requires a proposal and feedback from the community, with a long enough time window for that to happen. Not rushed-through changes by shadowy actors who show up just to do what some malicious external authority demands.

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                                    • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                                      @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

                                      frumble@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @artemis @smn @wwahammy What if you are Californian? Could get you in legal trouble.

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                                      • smn@l3ib.orgS smn@l3ib.org

                                        @artemis @wwahammy this isn't complying in advance, it's complying with the law. Which passed unanimously through the California assembly and senate and was signed into law by Gavin Newsom in 2025. It's not going to be repealed.

                                        Open source projects do not have the type of budget that allows them to merely ignore the law and shrug off fines and legal fees.

                                        sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @smn@l3ib.org @artemis @wwahammy
                                        DON'T FUCKING COMPLY at all. In advance or otherwise.

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                                        • artemis@climatejustice.socialA artemis@climatejustice.social

                                          @smn @wwahammy I don't understand how California gets to mandate this. People can download software from wherever they want. Host your project outside of California.

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                                          @artemis @smn @wwahammy a few have updated their licenses to exclude uses in jurisdictions with those requirements. Not sure what California could do if they caught you using an OS not licensed to use in CA, but while they might be able to punish the user they can’t touch the provider

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