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  • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

    @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss You mean like Fortinet has done for the past however many years?

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    #73

    @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss There is only one answer, leave the cybers, go off grid, make your own food, and herd sheep.

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    • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

      @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss There is only one answer, leave the cybers, go off grid, make your own food, and herd sheep.

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      #74

      @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @Viss I'M TRYING

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      • rootwyrm@weird.autosR rootwyrm@weird.autos

        @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss <compliance hat on>
        The reason security isn't 'profitable' is because the penalty for leaking the PII including SSNs of 147 million people is less than one half of one quarter's profit.

        And if it doesn't make headlines and you had all the required disclosures in place, it's $0.

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        #75

        @rootwyrm @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss

        louder for the people in the back. 🙂

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        • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

          "AI is giving attackers a huge advantage!"

          "Yes, it is. It's amazing how quickly it has destroyed dev, sec, ops, management, company missions and priorities, regulations, information literacy, and civil society, making everyone more vulnerable."

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          #76

          @cR0w it's a virus.

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          • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

            @cR0w @jackryder Asbestos in brake pads and lead in paint did improve the product though. If they weren't so horriffic to human health, we would still be using them. Conversely, I've yet to see an instance where AI has actually improved anything. At best it lets people who are mediocre at their jobs output a higher quantity of mediocre work.

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            #77

            @Mustardfacial @cR0w @jackryder

            That's the general idea, yes.

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            • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

              @krypt3ia @FuturisticRobert @Viss I'M TRYING

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              #78

              @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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              • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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                #79

                @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss ...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'

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                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                  @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss ...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'

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                  #80

                  @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @Viss Exactly

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                  • adamdavis@mastodon.socialA adamdavis@mastodon.social

                    @cR0w
                    It briefly amazed me, now it just dismays me. I work for the government. Almost all our management and about half the devs are all-in for AI. I'm older and more sceptical. I've seen a few silver bullets fly by in the past, and I don't have much desire to rearrange my job to prompting, reviewing, and hoping the AI code turns out okay. I should be able to hold out until retirement, but younger folks don't have that luxury.

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                    #81

                    @AdamDavis @cR0w

                    Yeah and we're gonna "retire" as they crash the markets and decide all the social security we've paid is theirs not ours

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                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                      @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia @Viss ...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'

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                      #82

                      @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia samesies, except nobody knows where the fuck i am and they never find me, and i spend my days cruising around the forest with a gnarly macro insect camera setup taking pictures of bugs and doing light maintenance on my zero carbon natural gas, water, solar/wind and sodium battery setups

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                      • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                        @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss in my fantasy world I'm retired living in a cabin somewhere, when one day someone from my past interrupts me while I'm out chopping wood saying "we need you back. Something's happened."

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                        #83

                        @FuturisticRobert @cR0w @krypt3ia @Viss no shit. My hourly rate starts at 400 an hour, minimum of 4 hours.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia samesies, except nobody knows where the fuck i am and they never find me, and i spend my days cruising around the forest with a gnarly macro insect camera setup taking pictures of bugs and doing light maintenance on my zero carbon natural gas, water, solar/wind and sodium battery setups

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                          #84

                          @Viss @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia The dream.

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                          • iagox86@infosec.exchangeI iagox86@infosec.exchange

                            @cR0w Also trust! I remember when certain small companies used to set themselves apart and build a lot of goodwill by having humans create things for the community.. now it's all slop all the time coming from their social accounts

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                            #85

                            @iagox86 @cR0w I used to love writing short blog posts for my company. Nothing earth shattering, but just interesting enough that it kept our name circulating and maybe, just maybe, helped out a few people interested in the same problems.

                            Then we got bought, and the blog was all shaped by marketing from then on. (same at the company after, as great as it was in other ways). Community engagement became just plain engagement.

                            Find me another small company of nerds who just want to help out others, and share bits of what they've learned for the community, and I'll be happy.

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              @cR0w @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia samesies, except nobody knows where the fuck i am and they never find me, and i spend my days cruising around the forest with a gnarly macro insect camera setup taking pictures of bugs and doing light maintenance on my zero carbon natural gas, water, solar/wind and sodium battery setups

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                              #86

                              @Viss @cR0w @krypt3ia

                              Sodium batteries! Nice!

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                              • darthnull@infosec.exchangeD darthnull@infosec.exchange

                                @iagox86 @cR0w I used to love writing short blog posts for my company. Nothing earth shattering, but just interesting enough that it kept our name circulating and maybe, just maybe, helped out a few people interested in the same problems.

                                Then we got bought, and the blog was all shaped by marketing from then on. (same at the company after, as great as it was in other ways). Community engagement became just plain engagement.

                                Find me another small company of nerds who just want to help out others, and share bits of what they've learned for the community, and I'll be happy.

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                                #87

                                @darthnull @iagox86 Seems to be the way most of the current orgs that claim community involvement are already heading too.

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                                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                  @Viss @FuturisticRobert @krypt3ia The dream.

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                                  #88

                                  @cR0w @Viss @FuturisticRobert Unfortunately, I suspect all of us will be trying to just survive in some post apocalyptic hellscape.

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                                  • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                                    @cR0w @Viss @FuturisticRobert Unfortunately, I suspect all of us will be trying to just survive in some post apocalyptic hellscape.

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                                    #89

                                    @krypt3ia @cR0w @Viss

                                    I have a stash of bottle caps....

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                                    • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                                      @cR0w @Viss @FuturisticRobert Unfortunately, I suspect all of us will be trying to just survive in some post apocalyptic hellscape.

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                                      #90

                                      @krypt3ia @Viss @FuturisticRobert Realistically, that's where I'm at too. But there's too much planning and luck for that so I'm doing what I can and accepting the rest of the risk. Like another Cascadia earthquake.

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                                      • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                        @darthnull @iagox86 Seems to be the way most of the current orgs that claim community involvement are already heading too.

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                                        #91

                                        @cR0w @darthnull Then labs/research makes their own blog, then that ALSO gets filled with AI slop because more quantity = better right?

                                        I'm gonna start embedding one of those "email me for a $100 gift card" into every slop post to prove that nobody reads them

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                                        • iagox86@infosec.exchangeI iagox86@infosec.exchange

                                          @cR0w @darthnull Then labs/research makes their own blog, then that ALSO gets filled with AI slop because more quantity = better right?

                                          I'm gonna start embedding one of those "email me for a $100 gift card" into every slop post to prove that nobody reads them

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                                          #92

                                          @iagox86 @cR0w @darthnull If I had a dollar for every time I was looking up PoC/exploits for a given CVE, and its some slop report from a website that just seems to scrape cve.org and regurgitate it along with very generic remediation recommendations, I probably wouldn't be rich, but like, I could have a fairly nice lunch.

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