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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

    My articles on them:

    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

    Wow. Just wow.

    usti@witter.czU This user is from outside of this forum
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    #54

    @_elena I'm reading your newer blog post and the video from the AI Monaco Conference is no longer available because “This video has been removed by the uploader“. I guess they have seen your post and acted.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

      The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

      I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

      My articles on them:

      🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

      Wow. Just wow.

      tyil@fedi.tyil.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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      tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #55
      @_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
      I cannot fathom why
      Its not that difficult, these people don't give a single shit about you, freedom, or democracy. They are pure, unadulterated evil. They do not deserve more chances, they need to be eradicated.
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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

        The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

        I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

        My articles on them:

        🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

        Wow. Just wow.

        njyo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        njyo@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #56

        @_elena @floe

        It’s not really a surprise, is it? The same @EUCommission that keeps talking about “consumers” instead of “people” and “markets” instead of “societies”?

        The EU started as an economic union and until we force it to change into a true union of people and human values, it’s simply better than nothing.

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        • passenger@kolektiva.socialP passenger@kolektiva.social

          @_elena @EUCommission

          I remember when W was announced, the things they emphasised were:

          A) "Now Europeans can be the information gatekeepers too!"

          B) "Now Europeans can harvest data too!"

          It's as if they looked at facebook and twitter and focused on the very worst aspects of them as what they wanted to reproduce, rather than on the basic humans-talking-to-humans aspect.

          nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #57

          @passenger @_elena Turns out the most sovereign thing is to have your own poison generators, imagine if a different country was doing it.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

            The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

            I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

            My articles on them:

            🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

            Wow. Just wow.

            L This user is from outside of this forum
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            luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #58

            @_elena @EUCommission
            Politics is about managing the largest group of individuals in a community with the smallest sense of reality in that community.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

              The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

              I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

              My articles on them:

              🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

              Wow. Just wow.

              K This user is from outside of this forum
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              kerplunk@mastodon.scot
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #59

              @_elena @EUCommission

              The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

              Der EU Komission ist von Mitglieder rechte Gruppierungen Dominiert.

              Von der Leyen Priorität Rechte Mitarbeit.

              Mastodon ist wohl zu Linksversifft.....

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              • usti@witter.czU usti@witter.cz

                @_elena I'm reading your newer blog post and the video from the AI Monaco Conference is no longer available because “This video has been removed by the uploader“. I guess they have seen your post and acted.

                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                _elena@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #60

                @usti seriously?!?!? 🤯 I think I may have downloaded it, imagining this scenario. I need to look in my files if I can find it

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                • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @_elena @EUCommission
                  Politics is about managing the largest group of individuals in a community with the smallest sense of reality in that community.

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                  luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #61

                  @_elena @EUCommission
                  It isn't any rule written anywhere. I'm just observing actual facts.
                  Having to mediate with large numbers, politicians try to choose the average sentiment for "something European". Which is in itself an aberration, like choosing the average of preferred colors by people, resulting in a dull tone that almost no one would like. Or choosing the average European food, putting all the local favorite ones in a blender, and pretending the result is a good choice.

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                  • bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

                    I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    _elena@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #62

                    @bitbraindev SPOT ON. They could easily bridge their Mastodon account to Bluesky using BridgyFed... a Mastodon account that is truly sovereign / their own

                    @EUCommission

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                      - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                      - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                      Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                      Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                      __ic@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      __ic@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #63

                      @_elena Strange name... It very sadly and unfortunately reminds of Perec's W.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W,_or_the_Memory_of_Childhood

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        @usti seriously?!?!? 🤯 I think I may have downloaded it, imagining this scenario. I need to look in my files if I can find it

                        aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        aimeemaroux@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #64

                        @_elena @usti I came here to say the same thing. If you have it, that'd be great. I guess it goes to show that we have to document everything, lest important sources are removed 😕

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                          My articles on them:

                          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                          Wow. Just wow.

                          plexus@toot.catP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          plexus@toot.cat
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #65

                          @_elena hey @europeanspodcast , I know you talked about W Social after Davos, maybe it's time to revisit it with some more depth? It all smells fishy 🐟️

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                          • aslakr@mastodon.socialA aslakr@mastodon.social

                            @liaizon @_elena @Razemix It seems like it's a bit inconsistent. vonderleyen https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb#identity and ec.europa.eu https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy#identity uses W, while e.g. jessikaroswall https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:7jh367ofh36xyxb7mpu7xigi#identity uses bsky.

                            On Blacksky vonderleyen https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb and ec.europa.eu https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy apears like they are currently deactivated.

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #66

                            @aslakr @_elena @Razemix oh wow thats bizarre. I wonder if Blacksky and W are federating at all?

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                              - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                              - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                              Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                              Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                              rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              rysiek@mstdn.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #67

                              @_elena thank you for your work on this, and everything else.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @Razemix well, ATproto is not like the Fediverse, to be truly independent and sovereign you need to host your own PDS, relay, firehose and moderation (amongst other things). It takes money, resources and expertise. I'm surprised they didn't move to Eurosky TBH

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                                #68

                                @Razemix@mamutovo.cz @_elena@mastodon.social

                                You don't need a relay, with a cheap constellation instance and https://reddwarf.app you can use bluesky without touching blueskys infrastructure.

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                                • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                  @aslakr @_elena @Razemix oh wow thats bizarre. I wonder if Blacksky and W are federating at all?

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                                  #69

                                  @Razemix@mamutovo.cz @liaizon@social.wake.st @aslakr@mastodon.social @_elena@mastodon.social

                                  It's probably a bug on blacksky's end

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                                    - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                                    - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                                    Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                                    Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    _elena@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #70

                                    File under: #WSocial shenanigans

                                    I was alerted by @usti that the video of the Monaco AI conference presentation by W Social CEO Anna Zeiter was removed from their YouTube channel. You know, the video that I referenced in my second exposé about W Social, quoted extensively (because some of her statements were truly shocking).

                                    This is the only video that was removed from their channel. I thought I had downloaded a copy to my computer... but hey, proof from the Wayback Machine of its existence

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                      The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                      I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                      My articles on them:

                                      🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                      Wow. Just wow.

                                      raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #71
                                      @_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
                                      Politicians should have social media account on open free software platforms hosted by the government, this is so dumb.
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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                                        - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                                        - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                                        Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                                        Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                                        dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #72

                                        @_elena
                                        > Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                                        Well, isn't what's “WWW” about?

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                                        • bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

                                          I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

                                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #73

                                          @bitbraindev And Mastodon would gain more reach if more politicians, journalists, etc would be here.

                                          But meanwhile, with all bad developments coming with growing size, I'm quite happy about some cosy caves 😉 which are better protected against toxic profit crap or AISlop.

                                          @_elena @EUCommission

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