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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

    My articles on them:

    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

    Wow. Just wow.

    phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    phl@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #45

    @_elena @EUCommission Entirely unexpected move from von der Leyen /s

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    • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

      @_elena @EUCommission On the ATmosphere, I have a Eurosky account. It may be better, but they just launched a new ATproto Web interface which requires age declaration...

      phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      phl@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #46

      @bortzmeyer @_elena @EUCommission UuuuUUuuuggggh.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
        - I was given some information on background, confidentially
        - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

        Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

        Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

        juliano@organica.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        juliano@organica.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #47

        @_elena hell yeah, please!

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
          - I was given some information on background, confidentially
          - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

          Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

          Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

          b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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          b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.com
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #48

          @_elena yes you do need to keep the info coming!

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          • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

            @_elena @EUCommission Entirely unexpected move from von der Leyen /s

            leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL This user is from outside of this forum
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            leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #49

            @phl @_elena @EUCommission 😢

            bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB 1 Reply Last reply
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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

              The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

              I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

              My articles on them:

              🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

              Wow. Just wow.

              numerfolt@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              numerfolt@kirche.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #50

              @_elena @EUCommission What the heck?!?

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              • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                @phl @_elena @EUCommission 😢

                bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #51

                @leanderlindahl @phl @_elena @EUCommission Ugh... Very frustrating. Corporate lobbying at its finest.

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                • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                  @_elena @Razemix but W is just a PDS rn, which is very simple to set up I'm following many kids who are running their own.

                  aslakr@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  aslakr@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #52

                  @liaizon @_elena @Razemix It seems like it's a bit inconsistent. vonderleyen https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb#identity and ec.europa.eu https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy#identity uses W, while e.g. jessikaroswall https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:7jh367ofh36xyxb7mpu7xigi#identity uses bsky.

                  On Blacksky vonderleyen https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb and ec.europa.eu https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy apears like they are currently deactivated.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                    My articles on them:

                    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                    Wow. Just wow.

                    immy@equestria.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    immy@equestria.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #53

                    @_elena @EUCommission Ugh, I really hate all of this political signalling around "European tech". I don't think this will be the last time we see the fallout caused by being more concerned about what's "European" than what's actually good for citizens

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                      The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                      I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                      My articles on them:

                      🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                      Wow. Just wow.

                      usti@witter.czU This user is from outside of this forum
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                      usti@witter.cz
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #54

                      @_elena I'm reading your newer blog post and the video from the AI Monaco Conference is no longer available because “This video has been removed by the uploader“. I guess they have seen your post and acted.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                        The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                        I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                        My articles on them:

                        🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                        Wow. Just wow.

                        tyil@fedi.tyil.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #55
                        @_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
                        I cannot fathom why
                        Its not that difficult, these people don't give a single shit about you, freedom, or democracy. They are pure, unadulterated evil. They do not deserve more chances, they need to be eradicated.
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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                          My articles on them:

                          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                          Wow. Just wow.

                          njyo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          njyo@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #56

                          @_elena @floe

                          It’s not really a surprise, is it? The same @EUCommission that keeps talking about “consumers” instead of “people” and “markets” instead of “societies”?

                          The EU started as an economic union and until we force it to change into a true union of people and human values, it’s simply better than nothing.

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                          • passenger@kolektiva.socialP passenger@kolektiva.social

                            @_elena @EUCommission

                            I remember when W was announced, the things they emphasised were:

                            A) "Now Europeans can be the information gatekeepers too!"

                            B) "Now Europeans can harvest data too!"

                            It's as if they looked at facebook and twitter and focused on the very worst aspects of them as what they wanted to reproduce, rather than on the basic humans-talking-to-humans aspect.

                            nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            nini@oldbytes.space
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #57

                            @passenger @_elena Turns out the most sovereign thing is to have your own poison generators, imagine if a different country was doing it.

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                              The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                              I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                              My articles on them:

                              🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                              Wow. Just wow.

                              L This user is from outside of this forum
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                              luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #58

                              @_elena @EUCommission
                              Politics is about managing the largest group of individuals in a community with the smallest sense of reality in that community.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                My articles on them:

                                🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                Wow. Just wow.

                                K This user is from outside of this forum
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                                kerplunk@mastodon.scot
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #59

                                @_elena @EUCommission

                                The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                Der EU Komission ist von Mitglieder rechte Gruppierungen Dominiert.

                                Von der Leyen Priorität Rechte Mitarbeit.

                                Mastodon ist wohl zu Linksversifft.....

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                                • usti@witter.czU usti@witter.cz

                                  @_elena I'm reading your newer blog post and the video from the AI Monaco Conference is no longer available because “This video has been removed by the uploader“. I guess they have seen your post and acted.

                                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  _elena@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #60

                                  @usti seriously?!?!? 🤯 I think I may have downloaded it, imagining this scenario. I need to look in my files if I can find it

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                                  • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @_elena @EUCommission
                                    Politics is about managing the largest group of individuals in a community with the smallest sense of reality in that community.

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                                    luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #61

                                    @_elena @EUCommission
                                    It isn't any rule written anywhere. I'm just observing actual facts.
                                    Having to mediate with large numbers, politicians try to choose the average sentiment for "something European". Which is in itself an aberration, like choosing the average of preferred colors by people, resulting in a dull tone that almost no one would like. Or choosing the average European food, putting all the local favorite ones in a blender, and pretending the result is a good choice.

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                                    • bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

                                      I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

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                                      _elena@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #62

                                      @bitbraindev SPOT ON. They could easily bridge their Mastodon account to Bluesky using BridgyFed... a Mastodon account that is truly sovereign / their own

                                      @EUCommission

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                                        - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                                        - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                                        Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                                        Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                                        __ic@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        __ic@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #63

                                        @_elena Strange name... It very sadly and unfortunately reminds of Perec's W.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W,_or_the_Memory_of_Childhood

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @usti seriously?!?!? 🤯 I think I may have downloaded it, imagining this scenario. I need to look in my files if I can find it

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                                          aimeemaroux@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #64

                                          @_elena @usti I came here to say the same thing. If you have it, that'd be great. I guess it goes to show that we have to document everything, lest important sources are removed 😕

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