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Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January?

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

    #OpenWashing

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    #21

    This is a very good exposé, @_elena. And W Social like this looks like an (un-)intentional attempt to weaken the upcoming European digital sovereignty.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

      #OpenWashing

      atomictangerine@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @_elena Never heard of W Social, but thank you for your critical analysis! What do you think about Eurosky?

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      • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

        This is a very good exposé, @_elena. And W Social like this looks like an (un-)intentional attempt to weaken the upcoming European digital sovereignty.

        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @gelbphoenix thank you Lina! And I LOVED your post about Bluesky/ATproto and mention it all the time 🙂

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          @michaelmathy

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          #24

          @_elena honestly, looking at those sites, it seems W Social has investors behind it and has purchased press releases. And only then some real media picked up on it.

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          • ee@mastodon.nlE ee@mastodon.nl

            @_elena honestly, looking at those sites, it seems W Social has investors behind it and has purchased press releases. And only then some real media picked up on it.

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            #25

            @ee 🎯🎯🎯

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @ee 🎯🎯🎯

              ee@mastodon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @_elena seeing how gullible people on X are, though, is really something...

              https://xcancel.com/pubity/status/2014436220961423382

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              • ee@mastodon.nlE ee@mastodon.nl

                @_elena seeing how gullible people on X are, though, is really something...

                https://xcancel.com/pubity/status/2014436220961423382

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                #27

                @ee I know! 😤 I'm telling you, the first ten days there was ZERO fact-checking being done... and so this myth has kept circulating

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  @ee I know! 😤 I'm telling you, the first ten days there was ZERO fact-checking being done... and so this myth has kept circulating

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                  #28

                  @_elena aaaaaargggggggghhh I'm sorry you had to go through that!

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                    #OpenWashing

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                    #29

                    @_elena

                    Après cinéaste et photographe, tu pourrais maintenant ajouter journaliste d'enquête.

                    Merci pour cet article très fouillé et très recherché.

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                    • michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services

                      @_elena

                      Après cinéaste et photographe, tu pourrais maintenant ajouter journaliste d'enquête.

                      Merci pour cet article très fouillé et très recherché.

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                      #30

                      @MichelPatrice hahaha merci Michel ! 😂

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                        #OpenWashing

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                        #31

                        @_elena At least for me it's clear... W social is a financial project to grap some founding money. It's not a project with European sovereignty in mind or with sovereignty for Europeans.

                        Therefore, it should be avoided.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                          #OpenWashing

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                          #32

                          @_elena cc @FediVariety

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                            Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                            You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                            https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                            #OpenWashing

                            bjornw@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #33

                            @_elena thank you, for doing the work journalism / media should have been doing!

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                              Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                              You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                              #OpenWashing

                              alpacamale@social.cologneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #34

                              @_elena Monet being like: Am I a joke to you?

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                #OpenWashing

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                                #35

                                @_elena

                                I've also seen references to a BlackSky SM platform which seems to be another Bluesky clone? 🙂🤷‍♂️

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Regarding my W Social exposé: it was months in the making and I could have written a LOT more, showing additional examples of technical blunders, but I kept it "brief" at 3500 words 😅

                                  I ran out of characters to tag all the awesome people I mentioned in the piece: @doktorzjivago (thanks for the top notch meme), @tom @mapache and @Em0nM4stodon

                                  And special thanks to people who volunteered to proof-read a draft and gave me fantastic feedback: @bitzero and @DataKnightmare

                                  It takes a village ❤️

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                                  #36

                                  @_elena Thanks! Let's hope the message lands!

                                  Journalism has been disappointing. One journalist picking up on it was working for Dutch NOS. On launch she asked "Bluesky fork?" and got shut down with a "we'll share tech details later". ⏰🔔

                                  >Eurosky .. carefully planned out,

                                  But also dishonest. Eurosky is an offshoot from a failed global grift now trying the Europe angle.

                                  On launch I emailed back-and-forth with them multiple times to fix their privacy policy. Even now they make false claims.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                    #OpenWashing

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                                    #37

                                    @_elena thanks for unmasking the effort. looking forward to the complete unmasking of who is behind it.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                      #OpenWashing

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                                      #38

                                      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                        #OpenWashing

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                                        #39

                                        @_elena Same shit as US big tech, wearing an EU mask…

                                        Which is what I think a lot of this sovereignty hype will boil down to:

                                        A lot of US companies will establish subsidies, that will ”Eurowash” their products. In the background the data access for them stays, and nothing changes. We use the same products under a different name and somebody gets a cut.

                                        Neoliberal corporatism is an ideology, and this is the result. So very few people can even see it.

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                                        • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                                          @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                                          #40

                                          @_elena also see https://infosec.exchange/@adfichter/116533797319369553

                                          #Wedium #AnotherShadyW #TikTokAlternative

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