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  3. Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _elena@mastodon.social
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    #1

    Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

    I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

    What gives?

    Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

    I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

    souverain@social.souverain.ovhS simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS greenwhale@dice.campG jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloudJ wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW 31 Replies Last reply
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

      I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

      What gives?

      Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

      I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

      souverain@social.souverain.ovhS This user is from outside of this forum
      souverain@social.souverain.ovhS This user is from outside of this forum
      souverain@social.souverain.ovh
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @_elena me too

      _elena@mastodon.social_ 1 Reply Last reply
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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

        I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

        What gives?

        Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

        I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

        simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
        simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
        simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @_elena

        This is more of an instance issue where they have open registration and poor quality moderation.

        Unfortunately MS has this reputation. Maybe an alternative instance or start your own? 🙂

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

          I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

          What gives?

          Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

          I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

          greenwhale@dice.campG This user is from outside of this forum
          greenwhale@dice.campG This user is from outside of this forum
          greenwhale@dice.camp
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          #4

          @_elena oh, so we shouldn't pray three times a day in your general direction? * Puts away prayer mat * 😓 /j

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

            I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

            What gives?

            Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

            I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

            jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloud
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            #5

            @_elena is there a pattern in what server they’re on? Most spam I have to deal with is on mastodon.social, unfortunately.

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            • souverain@social.souverain.ovhS souverain@social.souverain.ovh

              @_elena me too

              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
              _elena@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @souverain 😭

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              • jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloudJ jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloud

                @_elena is there a pattern in what server they’re on? Most spam I have to deal with is on mastodon.social, unfortunately.

                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                _elena@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @jvnknvlgl ah yes, after checking I can see they are all from mastodon.social. I'm on it too, though 😬

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

                  I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

                  What gives?

                  Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

                  I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

                  wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
                  wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
                  wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @_elena
                  I'd always recommend manual approvals, just so you can see who is following you and maybe follow back :3

                  Also, yes, there are quite a few bots around doing stuff. Since my instance (that runs on quite the low power VPS) is only for me and a few friends, I have turned on Admin approval for registrations and astonishingly, I get quite a few signup requests that always have an LLM feeling summary for why they want to sign up.

                  Also I try to block instances that are either like not acceptable due to ethical concerns (mainly a whole bunch of meta servers) or because they are spammy. Furthermore since the signup requests I also added E-Mail blocks for some domains I know are bad (for example there is an email service where AI agents can just signup, specially made for them).

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @souverain 😭

                    souverain@social.souverain.ovhS This user is from outside of this forum
                    souverain@social.souverain.ovhS This user is from outside of this forum
                    souverain@social.souverain.ovh
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                    #9

                    @_elena And I'm currently trying to migrate to https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2 because it's much lighter than Mastodon, while still staying within the Fediverse. However, I'm not happy because in the Fediverse, if I migrate to another platform, I can't migrate my posts, only my contacts... I thought the Fediverse was capable of handling portability, but that’s not the case yet.

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                    • wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu

                      @_elena
                      I'd always recommend manual approvals, just so you can see who is following you and maybe follow back :3

                      Also, yes, there are quite a few bots around doing stuff. Since my instance (that runs on quite the low power VPS) is only for me and a few friends, I have turned on Admin approval for registrations and astonishingly, I get quite a few signup requests that always have an LLM feeling summary for why they want to sign up.

                      Also I try to block instances that are either like not acceptable due to ethical concerns (mainly a whole bunch of meta servers) or because they are spammy. Furthermore since the signup requests I also added E-Mail blocks for some domains I know are bad (for example there is an email service where AI agents can just signup, specially made for them).

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                      _elena@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @Wolkensteine yes I just turned on manual approvals... I'm on mastodon.social and most of the new weird accounts following me are on this same instance... le sigh

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                      • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                        @_elena

                        This is more of an instance issue where they have open registration and poor quality moderation.

                        Unfortunately MS has this reputation. Maybe an alternative instance or start your own? 🙂

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        _elena@mastodon.social
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                        #11

                        @simonzerafa great point. I already have a self-hosted account - on GoToSocial - so I'm not really looking forward to migrating to it. I like the separation. But I turned on manual approvals just now

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @Wolkensteine yes I just turned on manual approvals... I'm on mastodon.social and most of the new weird accounts following me are on this same instance... le sigh

                          wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu
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                          #12

                          @_elena
                          One little annoyance I had with the fedi bridge to Bluesky (and if there weren't two cool non profits only over there I'd probably just unbridge) is that I can not stop people from following me. I can reject the follow request in my UI but the fedi bridge seems to still remember that someone wanted to follow me and I am not sure if my posts still get fedirated to that person.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

                            I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

                            What gives?

                            Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

                            I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

                            wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                            wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                            wonkothesane@mstdn.social
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                            #13

                            @_elena We treasure you!

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                            • souverain@social.souverain.ovhS souverain@social.souverain.ovh

                              @_elena And I'm currently trying to migrate to https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2 because it's much lighter than Mastodon, while still staying within the Fediverse. However, I'm not happy because in the Fediverse, if I migrate to another platform, I can't migrate my posts, only my contacts... I thought the Fediverse was capable of handling portability, but that’s not the case yet.

                              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                              _elena@mastodon.social
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                              #14

                              @souverain actually with SLURP you can migrate your entire Mastodon post archive to GoToSocial... possibly snac too? @joel and @box464 have do it (Mastodon to GtS)

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @jvnknvlgl ah yes, after checking I can see they are all from mastodon.social. I'm on it too, though 😬

                                jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloud
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                                #15

                                @_elena I guess that’s a side effect of having an (unintentional) flagship server.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

                                  I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

                                  What gives?

                                  Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

                                  I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

                                  rstub@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  rstub@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  rstub@digitalcourage.social
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                                  #16

                                  @_elena I have heard from several instance maintainers that maybe 80-90% of requests for an account are bots masquerading as real people.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @souverain actually with SLURP you can migrate your entire Mastodon post archive to GoToSocial... possibly snac too? @joel and @box464 have do it (Mastodon to GtS)

                                    wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
                                    wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.euW This user is from outside of this forum
                                    wolkensteine@mastodon.wolkenheim.eu
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                                    #17

                                    @_elena @souverain @box464
                                    SLURP works with all instances that have a similar API to the one Mastodon has, so things like GoToSocial.

                                    SNAC2 seems to have a compatible API so this should work.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Wondering if the fediverse - and Mastodon in particular - is undergoing a major spam / bot signup wave at the moment.

                                      I'm noticing an uptick in people following me who have weird usernames (lots of numbers), no profile photo, and 0 followers - I'd say 90% of new followers from the past week or two. (Disclaimer: I don't like the word "follower", it sounds cultish)

                                      What gives?

                                      Treasuring the human connections I've made here and this is a bit unsettling TBH.

                                      I may turn on manual approvals 🥲

                                      saskia@backend.newsmast.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      saskia@backend.newsmast.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      saskia@backend.newsmast.org
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                                      #18

                                      @_elena

                                      As a moderator of quite a few instances - yes!

                                      There's a huge spam wave at the moment and it's not slowing down. I no longer think it's a wave, I think this is just the spam sea rising 🌊

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                                      • rstub@digitalcourage.socialR rstub@digitalcourage.social

                                        @_elena I have heard from several instance maintainers that maybe 80-90% of requests for an account are bots masquerading as real people.

                                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        _elena@mastodon.social
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                                        #19

                                        @rstub same. I've also read that AI agents may be contributing to lots of signups, ughhhhhh

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                                        • saskia@backend.newsmast.orgS saskia@backend.newsmast.org

                                          @_elena

                                          As a moderator of quite a few instances - yes!

                                          There's a huge spam wave at the moment and it's not slowing down. I no longer think it's a wave, I think this is just the spam sea rising 🌊

                                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @saskia oh no 😭 thanks for letting me know Saskia. FYI I turned on manual approvals

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