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Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

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  • johnlogic@sfba.socialJ johnlogic@sfba.social

    @neuronakaya

    Perhaps a truer line might be

    "Scientific journals don't want you to know this fact... without paying for it."

    I recall seeing a scientist here saying how they're willing to provide free copies of their paper upon request, avoiding this cost to the reader.

    This, of course, supports your hypothesis about scientists sharing. 🙂

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    #32

    @johnlogic @neuronakaya and will then spend the rest of the day sobbing with joy because someone else wanted to read their paper.

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    • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

      Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

      Scientists are famous oversharers.

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      #33

      @neuronakaya

      Oh, I know a LOT of scientists who don't want to know an important fact or two!

      Fact 1: The genetic clock of a species and its line of ancestry is NOT automatically the same as its generation to generation mutation rate, and cannot be assumed to be so.

      Fact 2: The 1,500 fossil individuals known form Africa between 2 & 4.5 million years old, all supposed to be nearer the human lineage than the chimp or human lineage, are not. Many are chimp or gorilla ancestors.

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      • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

        Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

        Scientists are famous oversharers.

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        #34

        @neuronakaya It's one of those statements that tries to sound really smart or secretive, but instantly conveys that whatever follows is just as humbug.

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        • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

          Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

          Scientists are famous oversharers.

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          #35

          @neuronakaya

          "We interviewed 10 brutally honest scientists and they all don't want you to know this one jaw dropping fact"

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          • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

            Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

            Scientists are famous oversharers.

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            #36

            @neuronakaya @EricLawton Oh really? Tell me more!

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            • johnlogic@sfba.socialJ johnlogic@sfba.social

              @neuronakaya

              Perhaps a truer line might be

              "Scientific journals don't want you to know this fact... without paying for it."

              I recall seeing a scientist here saying how they're willing to provide free copies of their paper upon request, avoiding this cost to the reader.

              This, of course, supports your hypothesis about scientists sharing. 🙂

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              #37

              @johnlogic @neuronakaya

              I'll send you a PDF of one of mine if you'd like one!

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              • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

                Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

                Scientists are famous oversharers.

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                #38

                @neuronakaya On a tour of the museum of nature’s workshops and storage facility. …and spent thirty minutes talking with the mollusk expert. I could have been there for hours getting the excited brain dump from them.

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                • hvanleeuwen@mastodon.socialH hvanleeuwen@mastodon.social

                  @neuronakaya the idea that scientists ‘don’t want you to know a fact’ is statistically incompatible with their behavior

                  they publish ~2.5m papers/yr, upload 200k+ preprints, make >3m figures, and generate so many supplements that journals added file‑size limits because people kept submitting appendices the size of small video games

                  i once heard of 14gb of raw data uploaded ‘in case someone might care.’

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                  #39

                  @hvanleeuwen Scientists also know that gb means gram bits. You want GB, gigabytes.

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                  • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

                    Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

                    Scientists are famous oversharers.

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                    #40

                    @neuronakaya that's usually just used in clickbait news article titles.

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                    • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

                      Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

                      Scientists are famous oversharers.

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                      #41

                      @neuronakaya The other one is about scientific consensus. Science skeptics pretend there’s a cabal to present a united front. In reality, most scientists try their damndest to *disprove* accepted theories because that’s one very good way of making a name for yourself. Agreeing with everyone does nothing for your reputation. If a majority of scientists agree on anything — up to and including the color of the bloody sky — it’s because there’s no possible way to dispute the facts.

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                      • neuronakaya@mastodon.socialN neuronakaya@mastodon.social

                        Anyone saying "Scientists don't want you to know this fact" has never met a scientist.

                        Scientists are famous oversharers.

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                        #42

                        @neuronakaya 💯💯💯💯💯❣️
                        As is evident every time I talk with someone 😹
                        Internal conversation: “Ooohh! New person! Did they ever hear this new (scientific fact or discovery) before!?! They look like they really want to hear this!” (Definitely assumed this before opening mouth😹)
                        In a classroom raises hand: “I just wanted to comment on (various scientific factoids) that the rest of the class might be interested in this (random scientific fact related to factoid), it’s terribly fascinating!”😹

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                        • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

                          @neuronakaya On a tour of the museum of nature’s workshops and storage facility. …and spent thirty minutes talking with the mollusk expert. I could have been there for hours getting the excited brain dump from them.

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                          #43

                          @WTL @neuronakaya reminds me of an experience I had at a museum. Me, geeking out about the amazing insect collection, lady comes up to me and asks questions, I start going on and on about any insect she points at and then says “I need to write this down to help with my tours” (she was the tour guide 😹)

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                          • sunscream@mstdn.socialS sunscream@mstdn.social

                            @neuronakaya
                            If you ask one to explain their work, it's often hard to get them to stop talking.

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                            #44

                            @sunscream @neuronakaya 🤣🤣🤣💯Exactly 😹guilty as charged 😹

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                            • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                              @sunscream @neuronakaya 🤣🤣🤣💯Exactly 😹guilty as charged 😹

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                              #45

                              @em_and_future_cats
                              Same here. I'll stop when they swipe their hand over their head and say, "that's way over my head." It's usually a signal that they want it to stop. Please stop.

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