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  3. I screenshot this because I don't have the energy to throw myself into a pit of half-braindead liberal vipers this morning.

I screenshot this because I don't have the energy to throw myself into a pit of half-braindead liberal vipers this morning.

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  • tael@yiff.lifeT tael@yiff.life

    @johnzajac What a horrible gaslighty abusive OP.
    "We don't want AI at all."
    "Too bad. We're adding it anyway."
    "Fuck you."
    "Ugh, it's so EASY to convince yourself that ABUSE and HARASSMENT are okay! You should be engaging with us in good faith to influence how we implement AI in your browser. Otherwise we'll just do whatever we want."

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    #58

    @tael @johnzajac

    Exactly and exactly why banning all the people sucking up in this shitty thread has been quite productive!

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    • primalmotion@antisocial.lyP primalmotion@antisocial.ly

      @johnzajac Wheb someone demand something if mastodon, it really means they don't get shit and their brain is rotten by big tech BS.

      You don't demand any change on mastodon. You implement them. And if nobody gives a fuck, well that's that.

      This guy can start he's own AI bros friendly instance, and see how they will all be eventually getting blocked.

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      #59

      @primalmotion @johnzajac

      Yup.

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      • olivia@scholar.socialO olivia@scholar.social

        @johnzajac thank you for this esp since things are indeed getting worse, i.e. this non-argument you're correctly fighting against is popping up all over. Like I talk about this and it's called "shaming" etc. https://scholar.social/@olivia/116357303546392362

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        #60

        @olivia

        Yes! I noticed that many articles are shifting from trying to defend "AI" (it's indefensible, I think they've realized?) to doubling down on the disinformation that what is called "AI" (e.g. ChatGPT, Claude) is the same as ML applications that have become truly revolutionary over the last ten years, AND this technology is *inevitable*, so we "need to shift from being anti-AI to being midwives and partners to the coming "AI" future" so we can shape it.

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        • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

          I screenshot this because I don't have the energy to throw myself into a pit of half-braindead liberal vipers this morning.

          But this *entire thread* is incredibly important, because it's why Donald Trump is president.

          This is a thread about how liberals destroyed the world.

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          #61

          @johnzajac

          Fascinating thread John, I lost track of all of the blocks after 8 or so. Each block is filed under "half-braindead liberal vipers" in honor of one of those silly ass posts. Also given several of them were @dice.camp an instance ban is potentially next up.
          #Fediban #WhackATroll

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          • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

            I screenshot this because I don't have the energy to throw myself into a pit of half-braindead liberal vipers this morning.

            But this *entire thread* is incredibly important, because it's why Donald Trump is president.

            This is a thread about how liberals destroyed the world.

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            #62

            @johnzajac

            https://stopgenai.com/every-time-you-say-not-all-ai-is-bad-sam-altman-kills-another-village-of-humans/

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            • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

              @olivia

              Yes! I noticed that many articles are shifting from trying to defend "AI" (it's indefensible, I think they've realized?) to doubling down on the disinformation that what is called "AI" (e.g. ChatGPT, Claude) is the same as ML applications that have become truly revolutionary over the last ten years, AND this technology is *inevitable*, so we "need to shift from being anti-AI to being midwives and partners to the coming "AI" future" so we can shape it.

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              #63

              @johnzajac and milquetoast "I am lying on my back, belly exposed, please don't disembowel me" citing OpenAI on their water use

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              • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                Scott Jensen's concern, in a nutshell, is the abuse and harrassment that AI propagandists have to face here, on Mastodon.

                His concern about the unethical, immoral, and destructive externalities of yes, even "local AI models"? His concern about the deliberate, strategic conflation of ML applications like medicine and materials development? Protein folding? Physics modeling?

                Apparently not urgent enough to even mention.

                No, it's the propagandists receiving rudeness he finds alarming.

                3/

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                #64

                @johnzajac as Scott Jenson is the Product Strategy Advisor to Mastodon Core team it makes the whole project suspect

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                • olivia@scholar.socialO olivia@scholar.social

                  @johnzajac and milquetoast "I am lying on my back, belly exposed, please don't disembowel me" citing OpenAI on their water use

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                  #65

                  @olivia

                  "Yes, I know that my "AI" use is rendering areas of the world uninhabitable but how *else* will I find grammatical errors in my writing 80% of the time?"

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                  • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                    Liberals are singularly incapable of distinguishing between a just peace and MLK's "false peace of injustice".

                    It's like they're colorblind except in this instance it's not that they can't tell colors apart, it's that they can't figure out what the difference is between the Nazi invaders and the French Resistance.

                    "What I'm really concerned about," some liberal somewhere must have said in 1943, "is that the French Resistance is killing people, too. How are they different from Nazis?!?"

                    7/

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                    #66

                    @johnzajac putting liberals in a monolith is a mistake, we are not that. I'm a left leaning liberal, we exist.

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                    • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                      So when these liberals wander around demanding that we leave the "echo chamber" (the fact-based world, in this instance) so we can be considered "reasonable", and in doing so find themselves defending *PLANET-DESTROYING TECHNOLOGIES CREATED BY CARTOONISHLY EVIL ROBBER BARONS*, it's not aberrant: it's how their ideology works.

                      They will *always* push back on moral thinking to make space for evil, because *that's the core idea behind their politics*.

                      And they think it's noble.

                      9/

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                      #67

                      @johnzajac NIMBY liberal Boomerism will be the death of us all

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                      • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                        I screenshot this because I don't have the energy to throw myself into a pit of half-braindead liberal vipers this morning.

                        But this *entire thread* is incredibly important, because it's why Donald Trump is president.

                        This is a thread about how liberals destroyed the world.

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                        #68

                        @johnzajac I think you've misplaced the topic of that branch of the conversation.

                        Here's the brigading event we were talking about (Dare responded to my share of it):

                        https://mastodon.social/@MozillaAI/116279201448628866

                        I think the aggressive language and threats are really dark. You might think they're justified.

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