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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

    Yes I too like to go on social media and proclaim how things should be, then not do a fucking thing to make it happen, even the easiest fucking thing

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    #8

    @benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

    once again, for the people not paying attention -

    i just spent 3 weeks at the ICE detention center, 24/7, being gassed and harassed, while you sat on your lazy ass at home.

    i didn't get enough to eat most of that time.

    i did this to stand up to fascists. as i have done my entire life.

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    • roblosricos@social.vivaldi.netR roblosricos@social.vivaldi.net

      @benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

      once again, for the people not paying attention -

      i just spent 3 weeks at the ICE detention center, 24/7, being gassed and harassed, while you sat on your lazy ass at home.

      i didn't get enough to eat most of that time.

      i did this to stand up to fascists. as i have done my entire life.

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      #9

      @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

      If you voted, you fucking moron, you wouldn't have to do that

      Unfollow me at least, a block is preferable

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

        If you voted, you fucking moron, you wouldn't have to do that

        Unfollow me at least, a block is preferable

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        #10

        @benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

        fuck yourself, you order-giving fascist wannabe.

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        • roblosricos@social.vivaldi.netR roblosricos@social.vivaldi.net

          @benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

          fuck yourself, you order-giving fascist wannabe.

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          #11

          @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

          Oh yeah, I'm a fascist because I want you to vote 🤣

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

            Oh yeah, I'm a fascist because I want you to vote 🤣

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            #12

            @benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

            no, you're a fascist because the US has been a fascist state since 1946, and you've voted to keep it that way your whole life.

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            • roblosricos@social.vivaldi.netR roblosricos@social.vivaldi.net

              @benroyce @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

              no, you're a fascist because the US has been a fascist state since 1946, and you've voted to keep it that way your whole life.

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              #13

              @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

              Well yes the point is to vote and keep fascism out

              What's failing us are the morons not voting and doing call of duty edgelord fantasy life of revolution. Having not the slightest fucking clue what that is really like. They are either violent idiots or agent provocateurs out to sabotage the left

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                Well yes the point is to vote and keep fascism out

                What's failing us are the morons not voting and doing call of duty edgelord fantasy life of revolution. Having not the slightest fucking clue what that is really like. They are either violent idiots or agent provocateurs out to sabotage the left

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                #14

                @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                So one point about that: If you want people to vote, you have make it:

                A) Worth the effort (ie: votes actually mattering)

                and

                B) Not make their life a living hell.

                Hint: Ask a "potential swing voter" in a "swing state" how the last year before election feels.

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                • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

                  @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                  So one point about that: If you want people to vote, you have make it:

                  A) Worth the effort (ie: votes actually mattering)

                  and

                  B) Not make their life a living hell.

                  Hint: Ask a "potential swing voter" in a "swing state" how the last year before election feels.

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                  #15

                  @phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                  why are we catering to people who don't care enough to understand the stakes to their own lives

                  in which case we're dealing with a moron, no brain (i'm not talking genius levels of political insight, but really obvious choices)

                  or people entitled and privileged enough that they don't care to do anything but whine

                  in which case we're dealing with an asshole, no heart

                  what do you think is actually served by such an approach?

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                    why are we catering to people who don't care enough to understand the stakes to their own lives

                    in which case we're dealing with a moron, no brain (i'm not talking genius levels of political insight, but really obvious choices)

                    or people entitled and privileged enough that they don't care to do anything but whine

                    in which case we're dealing with an asshole, no heart

                    what do you think is actually served by such an approach?

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                    #16

                    @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                    First, I'm Danish, so I have grown up in country where 83 to 87% vote for parliament.

                    Second: Have you actually ever asked a friend, who is a "swing voter" in a "swing state", how many times they get accosted because of that designation and how much that can make life hell, almost constantly ?

                    Because if the insane voting system in USA, there is an enormous pressure on those "pivot voters", while much of the rest of the voters know that there is absolutely zero chance of their vote changing anything, because of where they live.

                    And the other part of it is that you dont have two-party system. You have a one-party system which cos-plays as a two-part system, and the voters are plenty smart to see right through that.

                    If you want to get people to vote, you have to change both of those aspects: Make all votes matter and give the voters a real choice.

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                    • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

                      @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                      First, I'm Danish, so I have grown up in country where 83 to 87% vote for parliament.

                      Second: Have you actually ever asked a friend, who is a "swing voter" in a "swing state", how many times they get accosted because of that designation and how much that can make life hell, almost constantly ?

                      Because if the insane voting system in USA, there is an enormous pressure on those "pivot voters", while much of the rest of the voters know that there is absolutely zero chance of their vote changing anything, because of where they live.

                      And the other part of it is that you dont have two-party system. You have a one-party system which cos-plays as a two-part system, and the voters are plenty smart to see right through that.

                      If you want to get people to vote, you have to change both of those aspects: Make all votes matter and give the voters a real choice.

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                      #17

                      @phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                      "You have a one-party system which cos-plays as a two-part system"

                      ah, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe"

                      Poul: that is an incredibly fucking stupid lie

                      you're danish?

                      would harris be making claims on greenland?

                      be honest

                      does it matter?

                      of course

                      so right there is something huge and concrete for your own concerns, nevermind domestic issues

                      so stop fucking lying Poul, and doing apologia for morons who believe really stupid lies

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @phloggen @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                        "You have a one-party system which cos-plays as a two-part system"

                        ah, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe"

                        Poul: that is an incredibly fucking stupid lie

                        you're danish?

                        would harris be making claims on greenland?

                        be honest

                        does it matter?

                        of course

                        so right there is something huge and concrete for your own concerns, nevermind domestic issues

                        so stop fucking lying Poul, and doing apologia for morons who believe really stupid lies

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                        #18

                        @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                        It's really very simple:

                        No matter which party you vote for, the 1%'ers get richer and everybody else gets poorer.

                        All the rest is just play-acting and rearranging the deckchairs as far as I am concerned.

                        And really, Greenland ?

                        You know what that is about ?

                        Area(USA) + Area(Greenland) > Area(Canada)

                        Area(USA) + Area(Canada) > Area(Russia)

                        Yes, an orange man with a very small and predictable brain.

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                        • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

                          @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

                          It's really very simple:

                          No matter which party you vote for, the 1%'ers get richer and everybody else gets poorer.

                          All the rest is just play-acting and rearranging the deckchairs as far as I am concerned.

                          And really, Greenland ?

                          You know what that is about ?

                          Area(USA) + Area(Greenland) > Area(Canada)

                          Area(USA) + Area(Canada) > Area(Russia)

                          Yes, an orange man with a very small and predictable brain.

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                          @phloggen
                          Yes to the orange Shitgibbon it was about growing the US, but that does not answer the core question @benroyce was asking: Would Harris have done that or even said she wanted to do that?

                          It might not be much, but it is a difference between the 'two parties'. But that too misses the point, if the mentally deficients had voted, perhaps we would have had Harris or even a third party president...
                          1/2

                          @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

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                          • nikatjef@mastodon.acm.orgN nikatjef@mastodon.acm.org

                            @phloggen
                            Yes to the orange Shitgibbon it was about growing the US, but that does not answer the core question @benroyce was asking: Would Harris have done that or even said she wanted to do that?

                            It might not be much, but it is a difference between the 'two parties'. But that too misses the point, if the mentally deficients had voted, perhaps we would have had Harris or even a third party president...
                            1/2

                            @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

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                            @phloggen
                            Remember, roughly 40% of eligible voters chose not to vote, that means that the rest of the candidates combined had 60%, of which Chump got 49%... AKA roughly 30% of eligible voters, meaning those 40% could have elected whoever the hell they wanted and in their stupidity chose to stay home.

                            @benroyce @roblosricos @dnkboston @the5thColumnist @ShredderFeeder

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