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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @lynfox

    you don't understand how voting works in the USA

    it is controlled by the states

    red states might do something corrupt, but they are already red states. blue states won't

    also, you have to understand that this sentiment of yours is known as premature capitulation. fascists merely state a goal, and you act like it is reality already. why? it's weak

    cynicism is nothing but acceptance. please do not articulate this sentiment anymore, you only help fascism when you do

    we need to #vote

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    #25

    @benroyce @lynfox Also, on the “probably civil war”…

    One of the U.S. FBI’s favorite tricks is to spur people into violent actions, and then arrest them for terrorism. This makes us very skeptical of anyone openly advocating for violence.

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    • aprilfollies@mastodon.onlineA aprilfollies@mastodon.online

      @benroyce @lynfox Also, on the “probably civil war”…

      One of the U.S. FBI’s favorite tricks is to spur people into violent actions, and then arrest them for terrorism. This makes us very skeptical of anyone openly advocating for violence.

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      #26

      @aprilfollies @lynfox

      and protests are great, when they are nonviolent

      when they are violent, popular sentiment turns against you

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @lynfox

        you don't understand how voting works in the USA

        it is controlled by the states

        red states might do something corrupt, but they are already red states. blue states won't

        also, you have to understand that this sentiment of yours is known as premature capitulation. fascists merely state a goal, and you act like it is reality already. why? it's weak

        cynicism is nothing but acceptance. please do not articulate this sentiment anymore, you only help fascism when you do

        we need to #vote

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        #27

        @benroyce @lynfox they shot and killed a white woman in the streets and all everybody did was protest. Then Gestapo started going door to door selling bullets and handcuffs, with a possible 2k additional bootlickers joining in. News flash, protest no longer works in this country, people need to get angrier. Gestapo has no fear. They don't. They'll catch you anywhere and they know you won't fight back.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

          #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

          Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

          As an American: don't come here

          Don't do business with the #USA

          Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

          https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

          #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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          #28

          @benroyce When will the General Strike begin?

          https://generalstrikeus.com/

          #Politics #USpol #Trump #MAGA #Fascism #Venezuela #Strike #GeneralStrike #Greenland #law #DueProcess #ExcessiveForce #UseOfForce #PoliceBrutality #Constitution #CivilRights #HumanRights #AbuseOfPower #ICE #CBP #Minneapolis #FIFA #USA

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          • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

            @ikuturso @lynfox @benroyce - Trump will find a way to de-legitimize the results of the mid-terms if Repugnicants lose seats, or preemptively cancel the vote entirely under the guise of a national emergency or declaring war on a country.

            He’s already shown he’s not afraid of using his faux-military DHS / ICE / National Guard to quell internal dissent, even with deadly force. And the thugs in those agencies happy to play along.

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            #29

            @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

            but what is the point of this comment in your mind

            because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

            you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

            and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

            the only effect is you are helping trump

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            • S skedarwarrior@techhub.social

              @benroyce I don't blame anyone from wanting Americans to stay away from their country, except maybe progressives, aka anti-fascists/anti-nazis and similar.

              I understand what a laughing stock my country is and we honestly deserve it for allowing him to have a 2nd term as president. Both the uncommitted voters and trump voters.

              The uncommitted voters were protesting the genocide biden was helping with, well now its going to be even worse with trump in power.

              Talk about fail...

              Both of those groups are idiots.

              One at least has a heart though albeit misguided

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              #30

              @skedarwarrior @benroyce
              Non-maga USians are still welcome because every dollar you spend outside the USA benefits the country you are visiting and removes a dollar from the US economy. Ideally you drop many dollars during your visit. This will change though if US forces invade a former ally.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                As an American: don't come here

                Don't do business with the #USA

                Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                #31

                @benroyce Four years ago, I boycotted the World Cup, due to FIFA's corrupt decision to hold it in a shithole country controlled by an evil regime. Nothing's changed in 2026.

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                • lynfox@aus.socialL lynfox@aus.social

                  @bazcook

                  Yes this my worry too and even worse I think it may be left to what remains of the 'old empire' Australia, New Zealand, Canada, to clean up the mess. Not sure we can even rely on the UK (they have their own problems). But unlike last 2 times when the US was just late to the party, this time they will be the actual enemy.
                  I hate the whole idea but we can't ignore the possibility we may have to choose a position. We can't afford to retreat into a delusional bubble like the US seems to be doing. Pretending it's still a democratic country.

                  @ikuturso @benroyce

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                  #32

                  @lynfox @bazcook @ikuturso

                  right but we can still vote and elect dems to control congress and freeze his agenda

                  this whole sentiment "the usa is already nazi germany" is self-defeating: you want trump to lose, right? so why act like he already won everything? trump is not untouchable. why act like he is? do you want to help trump? i don't think so, but that's what your words are doing because you're presenting a fallacious rationale that voting doesn't matter anymore. it still matters

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                  • macacator@mastodon.socialM macacator@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce @lynfox they shot and killed a white woman in the streets and all everybody did was protest. Then Gestapo started going door to door selling bullets and handcuffs, with a possible 2k additional bootlickers joining in. News flash, protest no longer works in this country, people need to get angrier. Gestapo has no fear. They don't. They'll catch you anywhere and they know you won't fight back.

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                    #33

                    @macacator @lynfox

                    and fucking vote

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                    • mrtulip@hachyderm.ioM mrtulip@hachyderm.io

                      @benroyce Voting will only help us if the opposition can win by a big enough margin that they can't contest it. It needs to be an absolute landslide. Unfortunately, Dems have a habit of shooting themselves in the foot any time they have the advantage. They've been running the same strategy (appeal to moderate Republicans, at the cost of alienating progressives) for 10 years, and lost to Trump twice.

                      I knew we were fucked when Biden barely won in 2020, and way too many liberals took a victory lap and went back to ignoring the conditions that gave us Trump in the first place.

                      You can't vote fascism away.

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                      #34

                      @MrTulip

                      that's assuming usa is already full blown nazi germany

                      it's bad but it isn't that yet, so you can vote, and can make a difference

                      this rationale your presenting is saying a vote is useless. so people don't vote. so trump wins

                      so you're helping trump

                      do you want to help trump?

                      i don't think so, but that's what you're doing

                      so don't do it. don't present this "everything is already full blown fascism" fallacy. it doesn't help

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @macacator @lynfox

                        and fucking vote

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                        #35

                        @benroyce @lynfox voting is the starting point.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                          #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                          Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                          As an American: don't come here

                          Don't do business with the #USA

                          Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                          https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                          #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                          #36

                          @benroyce I am amazed anyone travels to the US for ANYTHING - be it World Cup or Olympics, They have put our citizens in ICE detention, and those of fellow Europeans.

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                          • macacator@mastodon.socialM macacator@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @lynfox voting is the starting point.

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                            #37

                            @macacator @lynfox

                            right, voting isn't all you do. it's just a tool in your tool chest. the other tools need using too

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @macacator @lynfox

                              right, voting isn't all you do. it's just a tool in your tool chest. the other tools need using too

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                              #38

                              @benroyce @lynfox Nepal showed us the tool set needed to change things.

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                              • hamishtpb@mewblog.thepolarbear.co.ukH hamishtpb@mewblog.thepolarbear.co.uk

                                @benroyce Hit these monsters in the only places that hurt them, their pockets and their egos.

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                                #39

                                @hamishtpb

                                AMEN, Hamish!
                                Wow, this is all so delicious.

                                @benroyce

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                                • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

                                  @ikuturso @lynfox @benroyce - Trump will find a way to de-legitimize the results of the mid-terms if Repugnicants lose seats, or preemptively cancel the vote entirely under the guise of a national emergency or declaring war on a country.

                                  He’s already shown he’s not afraid of using his faux-military DHS / ICE / National Guard to quell internal dissent, even with deadly force. And the thugs in those agencies happy to play along.

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                                  #40

                                  @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox @benroyce Nepal showed us the way to democracy, Americans just need to be willing to do it.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                    but what is the point of this comment in your mind

                                    because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

                                    you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

                                    and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

                                    the only effect is you are helping trump

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                                    #41

                                    @benroyce @ikuturso @lynfox - much of the problem is that states *do* run the national elections. In many countries, the vote is handled by an arms-length federal agency. They set electoral borders (not just the state / provincial borders, but ensuring roughly the same number of voters are in each jurisdiction) and they are responsible for the count procedures. US states have a tendency to invent electoral borders to suit their Party of choice. And then there's your Electoral College...

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                      #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                      Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                      As an American: don't come here

                                      Don't do business with the #USA

                                      Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                      https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                      #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                                      #42

                                      @benroyce solution: bully the participating nations using diplomatic and commercial levers, until they conscript fans to go.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                        but what is the point of this comment in your mind

                                        because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

                                        you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

                                        and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

                                        the only effect is you are helping trump

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                                        #43

                                        @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.

                                        That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.

                                        The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                          but what is the point of this comment in your mind

                                          because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

                                          you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

                                          and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

                                          the only effect is you are helping trump

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                                          #44

                                          @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".

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