Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
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@benroyce Voting will only help us if the opposition can win by a big enough margin that they can't contest it. It needs to be an absolute landslide. Unfortunately, Dems have a habit of shooting themselves in the foot any time they have the advantage. They've been running the same strategy (appeal to moderate Republicans, at the cost of alienating progressives) for 10 years, and lost to Trump twice.
I knew we were fucked when Biden barely won in 2020, and way too many liberals took a victory lap and went back to ignoring the conditions that gave us Trump in the first place.
You can't vote fascism away.
that's assuming usa is already full blown nazi germany
it's bad but it isn't that yet, so you can vote, and can make a difference
this rationale your presenting is saying a vote is useless. so people don't vote. so trump wins
so you're helping trump
do you want to help trump?
i don't think so, but that's what you're doing
so don't do it. don't present this "everything is already full blown fascism" fallacy. it doesn't help
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and fucking vote
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
@benroyce I am amazed anyone travels to the US for ANYTHING - be it World Cup or Olympics, They have put our citizens in ICE detention, and those of fellow Europeans.
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right, voting isn't all you do. it's just a tool in your tool chest. the other tools need using too
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right, voting isn't all you do. it's just a tool in your tool chest. the other tools need using too
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@benroyce Hit these monsters in the only places that hurt them, their pockets and their egos.
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@ikuturso @lynfox @benroyce - Trump will find a way to de-legitimize the results of the mid-terms if Repugnicants lose seats, or preemptively cancel the vote entirely under the guise of a national emergency or declaring war on a country.
He’s already shown he’s not afraid of using his faux-military DHS / ICE / National Guard to quell internal dissent, even with deadly force. And the thugs in those agencies happy to play along.
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but what is the point of this comment in your mind
because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants
you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump
and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting
the only effect is you are helping trump
@benroyce @ikuturso @lynfox - much of the problem is that states *do* run the national elections. In many countries, the vote is handled by an arms-length federal agency. They set electoral borders (not just the state / provincial borders, but ensuring roughly the same number of voters are in each jurisdiction) and they are responsible for the count procedures. US states have a tendency to invent electoral borders to suit their Party of choice. And then there's your Electoral College...
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
@benroyce solution: bully the participating nations using diplomatic and commercial levers, until they conscript fans to go.
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but what is the point of this comment in your mind
because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants
you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump
and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting
the only effect is you are helping trump
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.
That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.
The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.
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but what is the point of this comment in your mind
because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants
you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump
and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting
the only effect is you are helping trump
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".
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@benroyce I am amazed anyone travels to the US for ANYTHING - be it World Cup or Olympics, They have put our citizens in ICE detention, and those of fellow Europeans.
It's completely crazy.
That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.
Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.
That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.
The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.
All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."
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right but we can still vote and elect dems to control congress and freeze his agenda
this whole sentiment "the usa is already nazi germany" is self-defeating: you want trump to lose, right? so why act like he already won everything? trump is not untouchable. why act like he is? do you want to help trump? i don't think so, but that's what your words are doing because you're presenting a fallacious rationale that voting doesn't matter anymore. it still matters
@benroyce @lynfox @ikuturso - absolutely, Americans must vote. Everyone eligible to do so. Without fear of repercussion. Providing the government lets it happen. Or accepts the result.
I don't see a another January 6th - this time led by Democrats - happening. Or without significant bloodshed if it does. -
Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...
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@benroyce @lynfox @ikuturso - absolutely, Americans must vote. Everyone eligible to do so. Without fear of repercussion. Providing the government lets it happen. Or accepts the result.
I don't see a another January 6th - this time led by Democrats - happening. Or without significant bloodshed if it does.thank you
i just worry about talk that paints it as if trump is insurmountable. it deadens people's spirits
trump is defeatable
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
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I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...
100% agreed
but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation
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It's completely crazy.
That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.
Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!
@pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.
But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
When I see this sort of thing:
"As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA"I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.
Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.
