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The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

    plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP This user is from outside of this forum
    plutarch@gotosocial.plutar.chP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @alice

    There are some men to whom the highest level of authority is a little old lady.

    This is, in a lot of cases, because they grew up in an environment where the biological parents were in and out of jail and everything else that goes with that, presumably either lost custody early on or were never particularly interested anyway, etc.  If not themselves, then those they grew up with, were often raised by their grandparents.  They see some woman who's old enough to be their grandma, and there's no scenario in which disrespect is attempted never mind tolerated.

    You're describing some men who get that, and unfortunately, too many men who don't.

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    • whitecattamer@mastodon.onlineW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @flipper @alice Maybe this post isn’t about your personally acceptable targets of attraction and instead about basic respect.

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

        kingmoth@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @alice This is oddly specific and partially accurate.
        Peoples in general tend to be less respectful to peoples who are ugly (according to the beauty standards of the society they live in).
        This is a broader problem in our society about which qualities we attached to beauty and how wrong is it to do so.
        Suffice to say that this attitude is ultimately wrong.

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        • glowl@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @flipper @alice if you are using just another scale (smartness) its as shitty as treating people by prettiness or anything else.

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          • whitecattamer@mastodon.onlineW whitecattamer@mastodon.online

            @flipper @alice Maybe this post isn’t about your personally acceptable targets of attraction and instead about basic respect.

            flipper@mastodonapp.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @WhiteCatTamer @alice it is indeed about basic respect. The object of my response was to imply that I find all women smart, in their own way.

            I'm sorry, it went astray.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

              miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @alice

              *Alice posts a picture of some form of locking mechanism and somehow she locks in my attention*

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

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                #8

                @alice I talk with strangers wherever I go. I try, mostly go good effect, to treat all I might without judgement. As equals in a way. Buddhist concept of acceptance without judgement. It makes chat lighter and warmer.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

                  kkarhan@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @alice always has been…

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

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                    #10

                    @alice

                    Sadly, that is very true...

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @alice

                      certain assholes treat everyone with disrespect, but are well versed on doing a charm play to get what they want, which they can quickly drop

                      and so people should watch the charm play carefully, and as you note, watch how they treat people outside the periphery of their current song and dance routine. not just women they don't find attractive. but also waiters, hotel staff, taxi drivers, etc

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @alice

                        certain assholes treat everyone with disrespect, but are well versed on doing a charm play to get what they want, which they can quickly drop

                        and so people should watch the charm play carefully, and as you note, watch how they treat people outside the periphery of their current song and dance routine. not just women they don't find attractive. but also waiters, hotel staff, taxi drivers, etc

                        alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @benroyce

                        That sounds like my brother. He is currently accommodated at His Majesty's Pleasure, which suggests that this kind of behaviour eventually gets suitably rewarded ...

                        @alice

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                        • miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social

                          @alice

                          *Alice posts a picture of some form of locking mechanism and somehow she locks in my attention*

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                          #13

                          @miguelpergamon I'm #NotAGirl, but I'm glad I'm entertaining 😁

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                          • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                            @benroyce

                            That sounds like my brother. He is currently accommodated at His Majesty's Pleasure, which suggests that this kind of behaviour eventually gets suitably rewarded ...

                            @alice

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                            #14

                            @alexadeswift @alice

                            oh shit!

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

                              s_wilson@mastodon.unoS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #15

                              @alice even of other people in general, I guess

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                @miguelpergamon I'm #NotAGirl, but I'm glad I'm entertaining 😁

                                miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @alice

                                (*oops, I forgot the NonBinary bit again, momentarily, your magnificence*)

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                                • miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social

                                  @alice

                                  (*oops, I forgot the NonBinary bit again, momentarily, your magnificence*)

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                                  #17

                                  @miguelpergamon no worries, it's a common mistake 🤷🏼‍♀️

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                                  • miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social

                                    @alice

                                    (*oops, I forgot the NonBinary bit again, momentarily, your magnificence*)

                                    miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @alice

                                    (also whenever I hear "enby" I still think "NBE" which is something else entirely)

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

                                      petelittle@autistics.lifeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @alice the weird old ageing asexual hippie in me has never met an ugly person. Ugly opinions yes, but I am of the train of thought that we're all supremely and universally unique and that conveys an interesting "beauty" that transcends physical attractiveness.

                                      To me an interesting, kind, intelligent person is gorgeous regardless of any of the usual divisions of gender,age,race,colour,religion etc.

                                      Internally though some people, are a horrid black disgusting morrass of hatred, intolerance, racist, sexist etc bile. They, in my eyes at least, are the truly unattractive ones.. despite how classically symmetrical their faces may or may not be.

                                      Ergo I treat people as they treat me.

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

                                        reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @alice I'm honestly afraid of interacting with women cos I only think of my terrible mum and the weirdo classmates I've had during my 6th and 7th grade that found me "attractive" even though I'm quiet and just minding my own business.

                                        7th grade was weird. A few girls looked like they were having fun bothering me at school... After that I never really interacted much with women till I graduated high school.

                                        Prom was fun though. I was able to dance with my classmate and we had a good time 🙂

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          The way guys treat women they don't find attractive is a good barometer for how they think of women in general.

                                          muratk5n@mastodontech.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #21

                                          @alice Shallow Hal (2001) was on this question

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