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  • axolotl@kolektiva.socialA axolotl@kolektiva.social

    @benroyce its not a lie. Its my honest analysis of histoy and geo-politics. Maybe im wrong. But its not a lie.
    My goal isnt to discourage people from voting, but to encourage participation in alternative organizating and infrastructure that will, hopfully, long outlast both the comming blue wave and the equally inevitable swing back to the right that always comes after.

    I will try to take your advice, and focus on promoting alternative action instead of criticizing voting.
    And maybe you can take some advice from me, and be a bit more dicerning about who you call fascists and trolls. Just because someone dont share your tactics doesn't mean they are your enemy.

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #21

    @axolotl

    "My goal isnt to discourage people from voting"

    so don't speak words as if it doesn't matter. obviously voting matters. in the pure tactical way, at the very least, that i explained to you above

    the truth is you depend upon people who vote. without them your efforts are outlawed. and people who vote depend upon you. without you we don't get progress

    so the way we get effective change is to do *both*

    it's not an either/ or

    so don't lie and shit on the vote. *you* need the vote

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      Attention #fediverse / #mastodon

      We're entering #election season in the #USA. The #midterms

      That means something for you:

      You will see an increase in #trolls

      Messages along the lines of

      "Nothing ever changes, both sides the same, waah" #cynicism

      And

      "The candidate is unideal. Allow me to amplify and manufacture high holy outrage on the point" #perfectionism

      All of which is designed to suppress the #left #vote and help #MAGA

      You have been warned. Brace yourself

      https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20260915-russian-disinformation-campaign-sets-sights-on-us-midterms

      apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #22

      @benroyce Especially on Facebook and X. A recent study found 90% of Reform UK-supporting accounts on Facebook are fake. The oligarchs and plutocrats want autocratic governments that'll do their bidding, in their own narrow interests...at the expense of everyone else. This is what happens when we let psychopaths gain too much power and influence.

      Corporate social media is an echo chamber for their malign influence campaigns. The fedi isn't much better, but is at least a significant improvement.

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      • amber@hear-me.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @benroyce@mastodon.social
        There's a meme for that, Ben;
        As it supports what you said.
        In your own words as follows;
        "It's better to have a shit admin."
        "Than an admin that sends", etc.
        So please feel free to use meme;
        As you spread your message.
        As I'm sure this will help you.
        To gain support for Democrats.
        Which is your goal, so please;
        Enjoy it in good health, and;
        For clarity & for your benefit;
        I did not create this meme;
        As I am not at all artistic;
        That said, sleep well, and;
        Have a great Thursday.🙏
        @axolotl

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        • axolotl@kolektiva.socialA axolotl@kolektiva.social

          @benroyce you almost convinced me, then i remembered Obama's deportation and bombing numbers. Community organizing and direct action is the way forward and electoral politics is literally the system that got us where we are today.

          Nothing against others voting though. Maybe you will get some harm reduction. Or maybe you'll be complicit in crimes against humanity. Probably a bit of both.

          Remember the vast majority of rights and freedoms we have today, worldwide, weren't voted for but fought for.

          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #24

          @axolotl @benroyce Suppose if an electoral blowout against the GOP is followed by the Speaker refusing to seat Dems in Congress or any similar scenario.

          This is considered a high probability scenario, and it MIGHT finally force enough people to get in the streets and duke it out with these bastards to give us a fighting chance.

          Before anyone thinks I am talking trash, I received a dangerous injury in that Nov 14 2020 battle in DC against 20K Trumpers/1K Proud Boys/3%ers/Oath Keepers and was back out for more on Dec 12 that year and to help defend Black Lives Matter Plaza on J6 itself.

          I have gone up against literal division-size opposition and made it back.

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          • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

            @benroyce Especially on Facebook and X. A recent study found 90% of Reform UK-supporting accounts on Facebook are fake. The oligarchs and plutocrats want autocratic governments that'll do their bidding, in their own narrow interests...at the expense of everyone else. This is what happens when we let psychopaths gain too much power and influence.

            Corporate social media is an echo chamber for their malign influence campaigns. The fedi isn't much better, but is at least a significant improvement.

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            cyberquixote@infosec.exchange
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #25

            @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce

            Im going to say that compared to the larger platforms, fedi is a huge improvement. Many admins and teams do their best, at least better than the larger ones.

            The pace on the bigger platforms is much more frantic and it just seems so fucking fake..

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              Attention #fediverse / #mastodon

              We're entering #election season in the #USA. The #midterms

              That means something for you:

              You will see an increase in #trolls

              Messages along the lines of

              "Nothing ever changes, both sides the same, waah" #cynicism

              And

              "The candidate is unideal. Allow me to amplify and manufacture high holy outrage on the point" #perfectionism

              All of which is designed to suppress the #left #vote and help #MAGA

              You have been warned. Brace yourself

              https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20260915-russian-disinformation-campaign-sets-sights-on-us-midterms

              zalasur@mastodon.surazal.netZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #26

              @benroyce I've been noticing an uptick of "So you really think you can vote yourself out of this?" posts on Mastodon. It wasn't from a bot account but the cynicism is really starting to ramp up from the "burn it all to the ground" quarter.

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              • amber@hear-me.socialA amber@hear-me.social

                @benroyce@mastodon.social
                There's a meme for that, Ben;
                As it supports what you said.
                In your own words as follows;
                "It's better to have a shit admin."
                "Than an admin that sends", etc.
                So please feel free to use meme;
                As you spread your message.
                As I'm sure this will help you.
                To gain support for Democrats.
                Which is your goal, so please;
                Enjoy it in good health, and;
                For clarity & for your benefit;
                I did not create this meme;
                As I am not at all artistic;
                That said, sleep well, and;
                Have a great Thursday.🙏
                @axolotl

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #27

                @amber @axolotl

                well yes

                the world is shit

                so we sustain and iterate to better. it's slow. that's always been the case

                what else is there to do? what standard do you have? perfection?

                define for me an alternative approach, and i will change my words

                if you cannot, then you need to change your words

                until then, you're one of those people who get off on feeling smugly superior but you don't actually care about improving our world. just vibing meaninglessly online. you're not a real leftist

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @axolotl

                  "My goal isnt to discourage people from voting"

                  so don't speak words as if it doesn't matter. obviously voting matters. in the pure tactical way, at the very least, that i explained to you above

                  the truth is you depend upon people who vote. without them your efforts are outlawed. and people who vote depend upon you. without you we don't get progress

                  so the way we get effective change is to do *both*

                  it's not an either/ or

                  so don't lie and shit on the vote. *you* need the vote

                  axolotl@kolektiva.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #28

                  @benroyce i agree its not either / or. But as we touched one before, all your energy is for the election, and when the dems win, a its back to business as usual.

                  But not only will the wars, the support for genocide in Palestine and deportations continue, but the fascists will be back, and worse, over and over again until they finally take power definitively.

                  Voting can be harm reduction, go for it! But it's a temporary band-aid. And unfortunately, the vast majority of voters think filling a ballot is the end of their responsibility to the world. Personally i think your fiery rhetoric would be put to better use combating that apathy instead of rallying agaisnt those trying to build direct democracy.

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                  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                    @axolotl @benroyce Suppose if an electoral blowout against the GOP is followed by the Speaker refusing to seat Dems in Congress or any similar scenario.

                    This is considered a high probability scenario, and it MIGHT finally force enough people to get in the streets and duke it out with these bastards to give us a fighting chance.

                    Before anyone thinks I am talking trash, I received a dangerous injury in that Nov 14 2020 battle in DC against 20K Trumpers/1K Proud Boys/3%ers/Oath Keepers and was back out for more on Dec 12 that year and to help defend Black Lives Matter Plaza on J6 itself.

                    I have gone up against literal division-size opposition and made it back.

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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #29

                    @LukefromDC @axolotl

                    yes, the clarity principle

                    if few vote, and fascism wins, and some voices go "let's fight": no one cares

                    people who don't vote are expressing their apathy. there's no struggle there. it's acceptance

                    while if they vote, and the vote is ignored, this is a fountain of anger. this is the ignition point of the serious struggle

                    we have to vote. people who argue against voting or disregard voting are only helping fascism

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                    • zalasur@mastodon.surazal.netZ zalasur@mastodon.surazal.net

                      @benroyce I've been noticing an uptick of "So you really think you can vote yourself out of this?" posts on Mastodon. It wasn't from a bot account but the cynicism is really starting to ramp up from the "burn it all to the ground" quarter.

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #30

                      @zalasur

                      they aren't real leftists

                      a leftist has an ideological position and works coherently towards goals. not just voting, but anyone remotely serious understands voting is a good tactic

                      an empty loser vibes online smugly to make themselves feel good. they have no coherent plans. they have no genuine ideology. they have ego masturbation and 14 year old edgelord contrarianism. immature, unserious people, who plant their useless asses in leftist spaces and make the place stink

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                      • cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC cyberquixote@infosec.exchange

                        @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce

                        Im going to say that compared to the larger platforms, fedi is a huge improvement. Many admins and teams do their best, at least better than the larger ones.

                        The pace on the bigger platforms is much more frantic and it just seems so fucking fake..

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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #31

                        @cyberquixote @benroyce I've a formerly close friend who sadly decided to leave our private discussion groups because she's so Facebook and "AI"-pilled, she took personal offence to my negative comments about these sources of info. They're designed to be addictive and to deliver constant dopamine hits. She can't understand why folks hate her "AI" slop.

                        We're still both in other campaigning groups, however, so I'm hoping she'll notice that I stay just as - if not more so - informed without them.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          Attention #fediverse / #mastodon

                          We're entering #election season in the #USA. The #midterms

                          That means something for you:

                          You will see an increase in #trolls

                          Messages along the lines of

                          "Nothing ever changes, both sides the same, waah" #cynicism

                          And

                          "The candidate is unideal. Allow me to amplify and manufacture high holy outrage on the point" #perfectionism

                          All of which is designed to suppress the #left #vote and help #MAGA

                          You have been warned. Brace yourself

                          https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20260915-russian-disinformation-campaign-sets-sights-on-us-midterms

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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #32

                          @benroyce On Election Day, I'll go to my polling place and cast my ballot. That's the best I can manage.

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                          • deanfarrell@mstdn.plusD deanfarrell@mstdn.plus

                            @benroyce On Election Day, I'll go to my polling place and cast my ballot. That's the best I can manage.

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #33

                            @DeanFarrell

                            CONTROL SECTOR TWELVE

                            INCREASE THE CYNICISM AND PERFECTIONISM PSYOP REPLIES ON DEAN FARRELL

                            MAKE HIM LEARN HELPLESSNESS

                            (/s)

                            🤭

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                            • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #34

                              @RaymondPierreL3 @FediTips Thanks for telling me a bunch of stuff I already know and have also been arguing for years. 👊🏼

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                Attention #fediverse / #mastodon

                                We're entering #election season in the #USA. The #midterms

                                That means something for you:

                                You will see an increase in #trolls

                                Messages along the lines of

                                "Nothing ever changes, both sides the same, waah" #cynicism

                                And

                                "The candidate is unideal. Allow me to amplify and manufacture high holy outrage on the point" #perfectionism

                                All of which is designed to suppress the #left #vote and help #MAGA

                                You have been warned. Brace yourself

                                https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20260915-russian-disinformation-campaign-sets-sights-on-us-midterms

                                noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #35

                                @benroyce hey look...we can determine who to block by the replies!

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                                • noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN noplasticshower@infosec.exchange

                                  @benroyce hey look...we can determine who to block by the replies!

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #36

                                  @noplasticshower

                                  you are wise

                                  i am unwise

                                  i mock them until they block me

                                  😆

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @noplasticshower

                                    you are wise

                                    i am unwise

                                    i mock them until they block me

                                    😆

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #37

                                    @benroyce I appreciate your making em skitter so I can smush em

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      Attention #fediverse / #mastodon

                                      We're entering #election season in the #USA. The #midterms

                                      That means something for you:

                                      You will see an increase in #trolls

                                      Messages along the lines of

                                      "Nothing ever changes, both sides the same, waah" #cynicism

                                      And

                                      "The candidate is unideal. Allow me to amplify and manufacture high holy outrage on the point" #perfectionism

                                      All of which is designed to suppress the #left #vote and help #MAGA

                                      You have been warned. Brace yourself

                                      https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20260915-russian-disinformation-campaign-sets-sights-on-us-midterms

                                      cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #38

                                      @benroyce

                                      The "both sides are the same" message doesn't suppress the left vote. Because if you vote for a fucking transphobe and Zionist like, say, Talarico, then you can't call yourself left.

                                      Hope this helps.

                                      And no, I'm not a Russian bot. I'm in San Marcos, Texas. I'm absolutely voting for the anti-Israel/Flock/Data Centers left-wing candidates in the City Council and the woman trying tyo "unseat" (see what I did there?) Greg Abbott.

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                                      • axolotl@kolektiva.socialA axolotl@kolektiva.social

                                        @benroyce i agree its not either / or. But as we touched one before, all your energy is for the election, and when the dems win, a its back to business as usual.

                                        But not only will the wars, the support for genocide in Palestine and deportations continue, but the fascists will be back, and worse, over and over again until they finally take power definitively.

                                        Voting can be harm reduction, go for it! But it's a temporary band-aid. And unfortunately, the vast majority of voters think filling a ballot is the end of their responsibility to the world. Personally i think your fiery rhetoric would be put to better use combating that apathy instead of rallying agaisnt those trying to build direct democracy.

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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #39

                                        @axolotl

                                        "its back to business as usual"

                                        so if we show up in the primaries (which requires oppossing lying voices like yours who poo poo the vote) and we get 50 mamdanis, then things change

                                        we got mamdani in the first place because the DNC tried their best to give us shit centrist cuomo, and the people *showed up* and said no

                                        the difference is real. it's not "business as usual"

                                        this "nothing matters, everything the same, waah waah" bullshit is a stupid cynical lie

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                                        • noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN noplasticshower@infosec.exchange

                                          @benroyce I appreciate your making em skitter so I can smush em

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #40

                                          @noplasticshower

                                          unfortunately my abilities are faililng me

                                          i'm already blocked by so many of these pathetic useless fake leftist edgelord losers i can't get enough replies to mock anymore

                                          such suffering

                                          😂

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