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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

    your average person of average intelligence can understand social context and code switch easily

    how we act around each other, gender related or not, is very different in church/mosque/temple, vs the home, vs the street, vs the coffee shop, vs employment scenario, etc

    how a person acts in their home country vs adopted country is all code switching too

    anyone can grasp context and expectations instantly

    "we have to teach them" seems condescending to me

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    @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon can you explain why is that bigotry and misogyny?

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    • R redeleted@mastodon.social

      @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon can you explain why is that bigotry and misogyny?

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      #34

      @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

      what is

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      • juliarez@chaos.socialJ juliarez@chaos.social

        @draNgNon

        @benroyce @Jamoteusz

        This is about 'culture fit' isn't it.

        Like, if that culture is yt cis dude sports huel bro-down last in the office wins, then that's the way it is and you have to fit in.

        But if the culture is queer/trans positive syndicalist caring-responsibility and MH aware diversity forward then that's dangerous and discriminatory?

        No. Tech interviews are nice, but what you really want to do is avoid dickheads who'll break a working team.

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        #35

        @JuliaRez @draNgNon @benroyce

        thank you.
        may be I start to understand something.

        I'm small-biz - one man person band. Not much experience with BigFishes. [only some, rather bad]

        So - i need to understand something.

        [you use to much modern language to me - i'm not so up to date with it]

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

          what is

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          #36

          @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon that you calim to be in this thread

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          • R redeleted@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon that you calim to be in this thread

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            #37

            @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

            i still don't understand you. speak specifically and coherently what you are trying to say

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

              i still don't understand you. speak specifically and coherently what you are trying to say

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              #38

              @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon you posted a pic of a quote and in this thread you say that the people about the quote are bigots and misogynist

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              • R redeleted@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon you posted a pic of a quote and in this thread you say that the people about the quote are bigots and misogynist

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                #39

                @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

                nothing i said is remotely like that. please learn to read

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

                  nothing i said is remotely like that. please learn to read

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                  #40

                  @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon hahaha, yes i go and learn to read. Obviously!

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    Nice method

                    #techbros #techbro #misogyny

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                    #41

                    @benroyce Really? That's nuts, I got taught that in an interview you make an effort to address everyone there. It's an _interview_, they're all deciding to hire you or not.

                    Maybe I should write a book on how to mask like a human. But then again, some techbro might read it, so perhaps not.

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                      @benroyce @Jamoteusz @draNgNon hahaha, yes i go and learn to read. Obviously!

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                      #42

                      @redeleted @Jamoteusz @draNgNon

                      k

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                      • jamoteusz@mastodon.com.plJ jamoteusz@mastodon.com.pl

                        @JuliaRez @draNgNon @benroyce

                        thank you.
                        may be I start to understand something.

                        I'm small-biz - one man person band. Not much experience with BigFishes. [only some, rather bad]

                        So - i need to understand something.

                        [you use to much modern language to me - i'm not so up to date with it]

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                        #43

                        @Jamoteusz

                        @draNgNon @benroyce

                        There are a lot of US cultural assumptions that are awkward in the UK, make no sense at all in .de and even less in .pl (for instance)

                        Yet us anglophones are still making those assumptions.

                        Also, writing about any of it requires technical language in the same way that writing about, say, unix does.

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                        • juliarez@chaos.socialJ juliarez@chaos.social

                          @Jamoteusz

                          @draNgNon @benroyce

                          There are a lot of US cultural assumptions that are awkward in the UK, make no sense at all in .de and even less in .pl (for instance)

                          Yet us anglophones are still making those assumptions.

                          Also, writing about any of it requires technical language in the same way that writing about, say, unix does.

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                          @JuliaRez @draNgNon @benroyce

                          thanx for explanation.

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                          • kay@meow.socialK kay@meow.social

                            @benroyce Really? That's nuts, I got taught that in an interview you make an effort to address everyone there. It's an _interview_, they're all deciding to hire you or not.

                            Maybe I should write a book on how to mask like a human. But then again, some techbro might read it, so perhaps not.

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                            @kay @benroyce But what you describe would show a pattern of equal treatment - you'll address everyone regardless of who asked the question.
                            If you only do that when a woman asks, on the other hand, that's a sign of trouble.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              Nice method

                              #techbros #techbro #misogyny

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                              #46

                              @benroyce How about if I answer the question while staring at the wall directly between them?

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                              • geoffl@mastodon.me.ukG geoffl@mastodon.me.uk

                                @benroyce How about if I answer the question while staring at the wall directly between them?

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                                #47

                                @benroyce For reference I hate interviews / the thought of interviews. Luckily I've managed to never have a job interview in my entire working career.

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                                • geoffl@mastodon.me.ukG geoffl@mastodon.me.uk

                                  @benroyce How about if I answer the question while staring at the wall directly between them?

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                                  #48

                                  @geoffl preferably you answer by standing up and aggressively shouting at whomever

                                  alternatively you answer by sheepishly staring into your lap and never raising your head the entire interview

                                  (/s)

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    Nice method

                                    #techbros #techbro #misogyny

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                                    #49

                                    @benroyce In one company, we had an all-female interview round, because a lot of men behaves like assholes when they're in the room only with women.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      Nice method

                                      #techbros #techbro #misogyny

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                                      @benroyce Great. New vague stress to add to the interview process. Should I be talking to everyone when I answer questions or just the asker? What if I forget to look to different people and I've landed on the wrong one that makes me appear sexist? Can I look at no one? One of my goals when I interview is to make the person comfortable and assure them there are no trick questions. When you're having a comfortable conversation with someone you'll often get a sense of who they are.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        Nice method

                                        #techbros #techbro #misogyny

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                                        @benroyce I'm a fan of the "Be nice to the person who brings in the coffee and snacks" test, because an old boss pulled it a lot and it cut out soooo many assholes.

                                        Start the interview with one person, either sex. Second, also either sex, enters five minutes later, with snacks and drinks, apologizing up and down.

                                        Then see how the candidate reacts when the second person sits and asks a question.

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