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#TomMorello of #RATM:

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  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

    @benroyce @solitha

    Feel like we are in that part of the movie where the diaspora arrives outside the gates of the evil emperor's stronghold. Old rivalries and disputes are pushed aside as the parties come together, feast, prepare for battle and plan their great assault.

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    #7

    @mastodonmigration @benroyce @solitha Oh yeah-when that black gate opens and the Orcs come swarming out it's going to be a very tough fight but there's no other choice.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      #TomMorello of #RATM:

      "But in any and every contested race, as my mom Mary Morello always said, we have to fight the fascist every which way we can, recognizing that even if there's but an inch of difference between two candidates, there are a lot of vulnerable people who could be greatly harmed in that inch"

      https://stereogum.com/2513749/tom-morello-clarifies-he-does-vote-just-not-for-corporate-democrats/news

      #VOTE motherfuckers

      Fuck your #perfectionism

      Don't listen to me, listen to Tom

      Your precious entitled feelings are not more important than real world stakes

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      #8

      @benroyce

      It's not about perfection, it's about not installing democrats who will set us up for a worse, smarter, more capable Trump 2.0 in ten years time.

      By trying to undermine leftward movement and pre-empt it as "perfection" you're doing the work of the fascists. You're trying to pull the brakes on the left during the most pivotal point in our nation's history.

      Either neoliberalism must be brought to an end or democracy will be, that's the choice before us. There is no Third Way.

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      • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

        @benroyce

        It's not about perfection, it's about not installing democrats who will set us up for a worse, smarter, more capable Trump 2.0 in ten years time.

        By trying to undermine leftward movement and pre-empt it as "perfection" you're doing the work of the fascists. You're trying to pull the brakes on the left during the most pivotal point in our nation's history.

        Either neoliberalism must be brought to an end or democracy will be, that's the choice before us. There is no Third Way.

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        #9

        @contrasocial

        "It's not about perfection, it's about not installing democrats who will set us up for a worse, smarter, more capable Trump 2.0 in ten years time."

        😂

        this is so fucking insane

        " i prefer to have fascism by not voting because {insert creative fearmongering here}"

        how do you navigate through life with this being how you make decisions?

        have you heard of mamdani? el-sayed? angie nixon?

        will you please get your head out of your ass?

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        • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

          @benroyce Uh... You sure about this one, Ben? Seems like what he's saying is not aligned with the values you promote.

          "Before the show, Morello did a Rolling Stone interview, and he went viral for saying that he "certainly did not" vote for Kamala Harris."

          "Morello counted himself in that number, saying, "I just couldn't do it" and that he can't remember the last time he voted for a Democratic presidential candidate."

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          #10

          @solitha @benroyce Considering the quotes, it sounds to me like it would have been more inclined to vote for Harris had he lived in a swing state.

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          • simplegentleman@mastodon.socialS simplegentleman@mastodon.social

            @solitha @benroyce Considering the quotes, it sounds to me like it would have been more inclined to vote for Harris had he lived in a swing state.

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            #11

            @simplegentleman @solitha

            ✅

            "i'm not voting" has to be a statement made with context

            in a swing state it's the statement of a moron helping fascism win

            in a place that is solid dem, it's perhaps forgiveable. i still dislike it. because that's how blue states become purple states

            i ask everyone to vote

            regardless, if someone is not going to vote in a state like california, i ask that they please add the additional statement that they think people in other states should vote dem

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @contrasocial

              "It's not about perfection, it's about not installing democrats who will set us up for a worse, smarter, more capable Trump 2.0 in ten years time."

              😂

              this is so fucking insane

              " i prefer to have fascism by not voting because {insert creative fearmongering here}"

              how do you navigate through life with this being how you make decisions?

              have you heard of mamdani? el-sayed? angie nixon?

              will you please get your head out of your ass?

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              #12

              @benroyce

              Yes, those are all good, non-corporate, non-zionist candidates who are actually able to turn out voters without having to pull teeth to do it.

              We should lay the rhetorical and political groundwork for more like that instead of continuing to waste time punching left using the same old tired, thought-terminating talking points that lost us the last twenty years and cleared the fascists' path to the white house.

              Neoliberalism is done. Zionism is done. Some just can't read a clock.

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              • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                @benroyce

                Yes, those are all good, non-corporate, non-zionist candidates who are actually able to turn out voters without having to pull teeth to do it.

                We should lay the rhetorical and political groundwork for more like that instead of continuing to waste time punching left using the same old tired, thought-terminating talking points that lost us the last twenty years and cleared the fascists' path to the white house.

                Neoliberalism is done. Zionism is done. Some just can't read a clock.

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                #13

                @contrasocial

                if you don't vote, political science professor, fascism is on the rise

                due to MAGA and petulant showboaters with your rationale not voting

                real life stakes have meaning

                trans rights. women's rights. climate change. etc

                apparently none of these figure as important to you. because you want to do edgelord stunts to prove points that have no meaning if we drown in fascism

                you're a rather ineffectual person. you can't keep track of coherent goals and how to achieve them

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @contrasocial

                  if you don't vote, political science professor, fascism is on the rise

                  due to MAGA and petulant showboaters with your rationale not voting

                  real life stakes have meaning

                  trans rights. women's rights. climate change. etc

                  apparently none of these figure as important to you. because you want to do edgelord stunts to prove points that have no meaning if we drown in fascism

                  you're a rather ineffectual person. you can't keep track of coherent goals and how to achieve them

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                  #14

                  @contrasocial

                  and that's not punching left

                  because people who don't vote aren't on the left

                  to be on the left, you have to have ideological goals and do actions to achieve them

                  sitting on the sidelines not participating and just making self-serving grandiose but ultimately meaningless statements is not an ideological position. it's a psychological problem or personality disorder masquerading as politics

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @simplegentleman @solitha

                    ✅

                    "i'm not voting" has to be a statement made with context

                    in a swing state it's the statement of a moron helping fascism win

                    in a place that is solid dem, it's perhaps forgiveable. i still dislike it. because that's how blue states become purple states

                    i ask everyone to vote

                    regardless, if someone is not going to vote in a state like california, i ask that they please add the additional statement that they think people in other states should vote dem

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                    #15

                    @benroyce @simplegentleman @solitha This idiot (me) allowed another idiot(Matt Taibbi) to convince me to vote third party in CA in 2012. Never again, even though that year it didn’t matter.

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                    • patmikemid@sfba.socialP patmikemid@sfba.social

                      @benroyce @simplegentleman @solitha This idiot (me) allowed another idiot(Matt Taibbi) to convince me to vote third party in CA in 2012. Never again, even though that year it didn’t matter.

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                      #16

                      @patmikemid @simplegentleman @solitha

                      👏 👏 👏

                      thank you

                      it's about tactics. that's it. people need to understand tactics

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