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Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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  • mark@mastodon.fixermark.comM mark@mastodon.fixermark.com

    @dlakelan In hindsight, we did fall for the assumption that large centralized architectures built by benevolent dictators would work because we seemed to believe that technical competency and benevolence were hand in hand, and not a particular artifact of a particular, I'm not sure yet... Generation? Generation and geography? Dirty hippie technophiles in Silicon Valley? All of the above? None of the above? Wishful thinking?

    Whatever it was, we failed to learn the lesson that history teaches about ceding territory to kings.

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    #139

    @mark @dlakelan it worked, for a while. I gradually got more pissed off at them through the 2010's and I now refuse to sign up for a new service that doesn't love me back.

    Speaking of, do you know of a good general purpose #peertube instance? I want to get Set up watching stuff there

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    • mamalake@beige.partyM mamalake@beige.party

      @dlakelan can we build it again?

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      #140

      @MamaLake @dlakelan it never really went away, technically. People just stopped paying attention

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      • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

        @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
        One of my big problems with Discord is that people treat it like it's a "safe" replacement for the Web that was stolen from us, when no, Discord is "theirs" to begin with.

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        #141

        @pteryx @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan yeah, it is very difficult to have this conversation with people (especially when you know they just migrated away from Facebook... and can't see the pattern here)

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        • nekoplanet@mastodon.socialN nekoplanet@mastodon.social

          @dlakelan also 20 something queer people. And a couple old school real anarchists. Love it.

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          #142

          @nekoplanet @dlakelan also 20 something queer (new school?) anarchists.

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          • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

            Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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            #143

            @dlakelan was about to say "and furries", then I realised I was just restating the point

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            • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

              Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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              #144

              @dlakelan I do not like how accurate this is. Stop it.

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              • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                #145

                @dlakelan I am in this picture and I am not sure if I like it.

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                • publicwondering@mastodon.me.ukP publicwondering@mastodon.me.uk

                  @douglasvb @dlakelan I have been wondering whether coming down from the trees was such a great idea...

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                  #146

                  @publicwondering @douglasvb @dlakelan

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                  • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #147

                    @w_b @60sRefugee @dlakelan I dunno. Pretty sure letters to the editor and personal ads in the local newspaper were the OG social media.

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                    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                      Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                      #148

                      @dlakelan I’m only 34, but can I come along? 👉👈

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                      • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                        Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                        #149

                        @dlakelan At the risk of repeating others or taking it too serious:

                        This ignores a significant amount of people actually building and using this thing. 😬

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                        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                          Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                          #150

                          @dlakelan Pepperidge Farm remembers when the web was for sharing useful information and had no corporations or ads. Pepperidge Farm is now owned by Campbell's.

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                          • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                            Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                            #151

                            @dlakelan Nailed it!

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                            • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                              Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                              #152

                              @dlakelan

                              I've seen people under 30 here!

                              They may all be corporate hating anarchists though.

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                              • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                #153

                                @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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                                • aoanla@hachyderm.ioA aoanla@hachyderm.io

                                  @pteryx @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan yeah, it is very difficult to have this conversation with people (especially when you know they just migrated away from Facebook... and can't see the pattern here)

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                                  #154

                                  @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                                  I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

                                  (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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                                  • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

                                    @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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                                    #155

                                    @randomgeek @dlakelan in an SF accent, "trust us bro" rhymes with "symbiot", so I guess the con was there all along, but. Yeah, same.

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                                    • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                                      @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                                      I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

                                      (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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                                      #156

                                      @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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                                      • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                                        @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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                                        #157

                                        @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
                                        It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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                                        • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                                          @dlakelan There isn't a "big mood" style of expression big enough to express the size of the mood I'm currently experiencing from your toot.

                                          This was all a mistake. We should go back to disconnected BBSes. Or maybe ditch all the digital stuff and return to encyclopedias.

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                                          #158

                                          @douglasvb @dlakelan YES

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