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Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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  • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

    Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

    the_moep@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #149

    @dlakelan At the risk of repeating others or taking it too serious:

    This ignores a significant amount of people actually building and using this thing. 😬

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    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

      Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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      #150

      @dlakelan Pepperidge Farm remembers when the web was for sharing useful information and had no corporations or ads. Pepperidge Farm is now owned by Campbell's.

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      • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

        Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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        #151

        @dlakelan Nailed it!

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        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

          Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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          #152

          @dlakelan

          I've seen people under 30 here!

          They may all be corporate hating anarchists though.

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          • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

            Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

            randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #153

            @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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            • aoanla@hachyderm.ioA aoanla@hachyderm.io

              @pteryx @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan yeah, it is very difficult to have this conversation with people (especially when you know they just migrated away from Facebook... and can't see the pattern here)

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              #154

              @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
              I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

              (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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              • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

                @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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                #155

                @randomgeek @dlakelan in an SF accent, "trust us bro" rhymes with "symbiot", so I guess the con was there all along, but. Yeah, same.

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                • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                  @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                  I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

                  (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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                  #156

                  @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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                  • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                    @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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                    #157

                    @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
                    It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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                    • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                      @dlakelan There isn't a "big mood" style of expression big enough to express the size of the mood I'm currently experiencing from your toot.

                      This was all a mistake. We should go back to disconnected BBSes. Or maybe ditch all the digital stuff and return to encyclopedias.

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                      #158

                      @douglasvb @dlakelan YES

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                      • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                        @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
                        It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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                        #159

                        @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan same!!!

                        I am STILL friends with people I met online in the early days of the Internet and I've met about 75% of them in person at least once!

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                        • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

                          @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                          I want to cry when I think about the blog and lolcat glory days of the 2000s.

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                          #160

                          @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                          • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                            @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                            #161

                            @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                            At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                            • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                              Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                              #162

                              @dlakelan I think we're all here.

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                              • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                                @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                                At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                                #163

                                @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                                Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                                • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                  @MamaLake @dlakelan it never really went away, technically. People just stopped paying attention

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                                  #164

                                  @fluffykittycat @MamaLake @dlakelan
                                  It's hard to "pay attention" to what's been claimed by link rot, pulled behind paywalls or login-walls, moved to Discord for a false sense of "safety", deleted out of fear of being scraped by "AI" crawlers, DDoSed by "AI" scrapers, downranked by search engines (yes, I know about Marginalia Search), and/or buried in piles of SEO slop counterfeit pages.

                                  It used to be trivial to *find new non-corporate webpages*.

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                                  • aleksimanninen@cyberplace.socialA aleksimanninen@cyberplace.social

                                    @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan and with https://marginalia-search.com/ you can find it again. It's so beautiful and strange to see the old web again

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                                    #165

                                    @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                                      #166

                                      RE: https://dice.camp/@pteryx/117368247487117847

                                      @joshisanonymous @dlakelan
                                      That's part of it, but not all of it. Other parts are more active poisoning, or entropy outstripping the ability to rebuild.

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                                      • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                        #167

                                        @dlakelan I cofounded an ISP in 1996. I am really sorry.

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                                        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                          @douglasvb @dlakelan
                                          Campfires

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                                          #168

                                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @douglasvb @dlakelan

                                          & stone tablets

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