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  • canleaf@mastodon.socialC canleaf@mastodon.social

    @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission because leyen is in the boat with them.

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    #63

    @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission When her pathetic self was in power in Germany they dreamed about stop signs and verifications that everyone has a licence plate on the internet...

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

      No further comment necessary.

      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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      #64

      @_elena @EUCommission

      new fealty oath implemented.

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      • K kerplunk@mastodon.scot

        @_elena @EUCommission

        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

        Go to googles or apples tracker store and download the app.

        Does the W stand for Wankers?

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        #65

        @Kerplunk @_elena @EUCommission In this case, wnanabe wankers !

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

          No further comment necessary.

          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

          renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #66

          @_elena @EUCommission "fully decentralized, have your passport or ID ready" is fucking gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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          • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

            @_elena @EUCommission

            new fealty oath implemented.

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            #67

            @Sassinake @_elena @EUCommission Fealty OAuth

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

              @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

              W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

              No further comment necessary.

              Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

              #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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              #68

              @_elena @EUCommission @hinlegen

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                No further comment necessary.

                Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                #69

                @_elena If government’s around the world continue blocking access to what we use now behind ID verification, will Mastodon and other Fediverse services be considered illegal or unsafe?

                We see it now with GrapheneOS and VPN’s and other devices without Apple and Google store services.

                It makes me wonder what is in store for the open source platform and community.

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                • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                  We have been hacked and we lost all your data and we're not going to be able to return your finger. Sorry!

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                  #70

                  Anyway the most valuable information (to advertisers and others) is knowing exactly who we are on the Internet. This is why the age verification schemes are being pushed. I'll just stop using the Internet and go sit on the grass.

                  If I give these people a finger, it'll be the middle one.

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                  • joao72@mastodon.socialJ joao72@mastodon.social

                    @_elena If government’s around the world continue blocking access to what we use now behind ID verification, will Mastodon and other Fediverse services be considered illegal or unsafe?

                    We see it now with GrapheneOS and VPN’s and other devices without Apple and Google store services.

                    It makes me wonder what is in store for the open source platform and community.

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                    #71

                    @joao72 this is precisely my fear and why I speak up against it. A very dangerous slippery slope and an existential threat to the Fediverse and the open web

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                      No further comment necessary.

                      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                      #72

                      @_elena @EUCommission Trip. I wanted to look it up before making my claims but I can't find anything on them. There's a widentity.eu that has a privacy notice but, at least for me, it's a blank screen.

                      I'd bet your id information doesn't stay on your device but ends up on a blockchain of some sort. Maybe you have the option of not pushing, to enable the claim, but then nothing works because everything depends on the info being on the chain.

                      It's possible to do I think, but I'd be surprised.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                        No further comment necessary.

                        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                        alweys@mastodon.social
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                        #73

                        @_elena @EUCommission Wo ist der Vorteil sich nicht gegenüber der amerikanischen sondern der europäischen Kontrollwut und Deprivatisierungstendenzen gegenüber nackig zu machen?

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                        • joao72@mastodon.socialJ joao72@mastodon.social

                          @_elena If government’s around the world continue blocking access to what we use now behind ID verification, will Mastodon and other Fediverse services be considered illegal or unsafe?

                          We see it now with GrapheneOS and VPN’s and other devices without Apple and Google store services.

                          It makes me wonder what is in store for the open source platform and community.

                          crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #74

                          @joao72 @_elena With government support instead of hindrance the big tech companies will be able to implement what they've been trying to forever. Yep.

                          Open Source fought its way in but things were new and most western governments worked for their people way more than now. Now corporations get everything and those protections that enabled open source are crumbling and the tech is finally here to lock us out completely.

                          Yes. We are all worried or we just don't know what's going on.

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                          • preuk@framapiaf.orgP preuk@framapiaf.org

                            @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission
                            That's sad how our EU leaders want to mimic US instead of offering another model. "We need tech billionaires". "We need out own hegemonic centralized platforms". "We need our own global surveillance solution".

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                            #75

                            @Preuk @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission We demand our place in the sun? Again? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltpolitik)

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              @joao72 this is precisely my fear and why I speak up against it. A very dangerous slippery slope and an existential threat to the Fediverse and the open web

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                              #76

                              @_elena I wish you luck and hope the right people hear you. Thank you.

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                              • bladecoder@androiddev.socialB bladecoder@androiddev.social

                                @_elena @EUCommission I don't even understand how this thing works. They claim to have no access to the user's identity data and that it stays local on the device. So why do they need you to scan your passport while they are countless ways to authenticate anonymously?
                                In a press report they say that the goal is to confirm you're humain without revealing who you are, yet in the very next sentence they say that they encourage a culture where users engage under their real names, WTF?

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                                #77

                                @bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Theoretically you can first confirm the loop with the device (that's the qr code stuff) and then use its camera to scan the scan code on your id document. Then this could be looked up in the standard way (probably varying degrees of access to your government's API) to get "temporary" access to your ID info. Then it can do whatever comparing it needs via face scan, which doesn't work well, to validate the person and device together....

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                                • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                                  @bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Theoretically you can first confirm the loop with the device (that's the qr code stuff) and then use its camera to scan the scan code on your id document. Then this could be looked up in the standard way (probably varying degrees of access to your government's API) to get "temporary" access to your ID info. Then it can do whatever comparing it needs via face scan, which doesn't work well, to validate the person and device together....

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                                  #78

                                  @bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Then you issue certificates to the device.

                                  There may be some way that they could to the talking to the government with the device but I don't know how they'd establish firm enough trust. That's one reason why they think we shouldn't be able to run our own stuff on our own devices.

                                  At any rate, once the cert lives on the device you can just let the id info on the server get discarded with memory/session cleanup. WE still have to trust that they're doing so.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                    @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                    W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                    No further comment necessary.

                                    Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                    #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                                    #79

                                    @_elena

                                    haha, thats entertaining to watch. want an invite to freiburg.social? show me your selfpainted passport. only valid in rainbow colors and if you have kids, its a must they have created it for you ;)))

                                    @EUCommission

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                      No further comment necessary.

                                      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                                      #80

                                      @_elena @EUCommission What a freaking clown show 🤡

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                        No further comment necessary.

                                        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                                        #81

                                        @_elena What does the 'W' stand for? World? West? Wuppertal? (train logo!)

                                        @EUCommission

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                          No further comment necessary.

                                          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                                          #82

                                          @_elena @EUCommission Es scheint als wäre WSocial für die EU-Kommission ein Fortschritt, während hier bei Mastodon niemand nachvollziehen kann, warum die nicht einfach Allin gehen und konsequent das Fediverse pushen. Wahrscheinlich weil der Step für die X- und Bluesky-Menschen zu groß erscheint.

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