Danish border control fascist
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@Veronique_D and if you cross the border on a small lane likely there’ll be no check.
@jon @Veronique_D Or at an airport, of course
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@jon oh those border controls are peak pointless, no clue if you travelled from saarbrücken to sarreguimes yet, but neither the tram nor the bridge have any bpol present, so you cam literally just cross the borser to and from france with what ever you can transport in the tram or on foot/bike
further the forbach-saarbrücken section with the TER/Regio? bpol controls are them standing on the platform while smoking and vaguely looking at the people on the platform arriving
peak fucking farce
@16af93 errr I cross the France - Germany border at different places very regularly, so yes
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In the end systematic work about #Schengen - same as I’ve done with #CrossBorderRail - would be useful here. To show not only how costly and discriminatory and disruptive this all is, but that *it doesn’t work*
Although the #Schengen problem is so deep. At least with #CrossBorderRail I could theoretically solve something at some border. With Schengen I’ve no theory of change.
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I’m pretty sure that if you controlled any train of 400 passengers, anywhere, you’d find 1 person with the wrong papers #Schengen
@jon I'm not sure our train back in May even got controlled. Our train manager (or what do DB and DSB call them) made sure to announce three times in advanve that we should get our documents out for control, that then never happened. Instead we got even more behind the timetable than we already were. It's utterly frustrating.
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@Veronique_D right. Seen that dozens of times. I think I’ve never been checked on a bike!
My parents apparently already smuggled US soldiers across those forests into Denmark, during the Vietnam war...
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“You just see this train” he goes on. “You don’t see what I see in 8 hours”
No. You don’t see most of what happens because you don’t control every car
Oh and you didn’t control my ID properly anyway, you piece of shit destroying a border free Europe on behalf of your smug piece of shit political bosses
@jon He should try talking to his colleagues who used to do the (fairly well targeted) roaming controls before the resources were reallocated to border security theater. They were much more efficient and didn't bother random people.
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Danish border control fascist *******
“Do you not believe in border controls?” he asks me. You’ve had temporary border controls here 11 years you shits
@jon
this destroys the advances in Europe we have had already made. -
@jon I assume anyone who does have "something to hide" and still wants or needs to do train travel just takes the Niebüll - Tønder route. No checks at all and the scenery is nicer as well.
@Pepijn @jon @Veronique_D Did they actually get rid of the border checks at Tønder? I've got checked there once or twice out of three times. However, that was maybe 3 or 4 years ago. The control wasn't too serious though: "Goddag, kommer du fra Tyskland?" - "Schweiz" - "Ok, god rejse"
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@Pepijn @jon @Veronique_D Did they actually get rid of the border checks at Tønder? I've got checked there once or twice out of three times. However, that was maybe 3 or 4 years ago. The control wasn't too serious though: "Goddag, kommer du fra Tyskland?" - "Schweiz" - "Ok, god rejse"
@larstransportworld They're still there in theory, like on all Danish borders.
I've not seen them myself and two daily commuters* told me that at times months have gone by for them without a check.
*I'd love to have that route as my daily commute.
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I’m pretty sure that if you controlled any train of 400 passengers, anywhere, you’d find 1 person with the wrong papers #Schengen
@jon And how many drivers with invalid driver's license/insurance papers (or forgotten at home) out of 400 random cars? I'm pretty sure you'd find at least 1 too!
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@Pepijn @jon @Veronique_D Did they actually get rid of the border checks at Tønder? I've got checked there once or twice out of three times. However, that was maybe 3 or 4 years ago. The control wasn't too serious though: "Goddag, kommer du fra Tyskland?" - "Schweiz" - "Ok, god rejse"
@larstransportworld You're “white”, I take it?
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@larstransportworld You're “white”, I take it?
@edavies @larstransportworld @Pepijn @Veronique_D oddly they were foul to everyone yesterday, not only minorities.
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@edavies @larstransportworld @Pepijn @Veronique_D oddly they were foul to everyone yesterday, not only minorities.
@jon @edavies @Pepijn @Veronique_D
Yes, and I even replied in basic Danish. So I didn't seem 'suspicious' to them, I guess. However, as Jon pointed out, everyone gets controlled in Padborg, in my experience. That wasn't the case in Tønder, though. -
Danish border control fascist *******
“Do you not believe in border controls?” he asks me. You’ve had temporary border controls here 11 years you shits
@jon My first time travelling, as a Spanish citizen, throughout Europe I’ve seen this on the ICE between France and Germany and my first impression was:
- Some n*zi bullies on a train (the police)
- Doing some racist nonsense border control
- Being ashamed of that thing, internally cursing them
- Wasting everyones time
Just to do some racist policies to people who literally move from their countries to have a better life…
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@jon My first time travelling, as a Spanish citizen, throughout Europe I’ve seen this on the ICE between France and Germany and my first impression was:
- Some n*zi bullies on a train (the police)
- Doing some racist nonsense border control
- Being ashamed of that thing, internally cursing them
- Wasting everyones time
Just to do some racist policies to people who literally move from their countries to have a better life…
@amrtf Yep, happens there *all the time*, sadly. That's the border I cross most often.
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They took one dude off the train #Schengen
@jon Caucasian?
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@jon Caucasian?
@davidceiriog Ha. No.
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@jon oh those border controls are peak pointless, no clue if you travelled from saarbrücken to sarreguimes yet, but neither the tram nor the bridge have any bpol present, so you cam literally just cross the borser to and from france with what ever you can transport in the tram or on foot/bike
further the forbach-saarbrücken section with the TER/Regio? bpol controls are them standing on the platform while smoking and vaguely looking at the people on the platform arriving
peak fucking farce
@16af93@wetdry.world @jon@gruene.social the ones in Aachen are absolute pieces of shit, you can be the first person off the train with an unbelievable amount of luggage and just run downstairs and bpol won’t give a fuck if you have the right skin colour
if you are a family with small children that doesn’t look aryan enough have pearly white skin? believe it or not, straight to jail -
“You just see this train” he goes on. “You don’t see what I see in 8 hours”
No. You don’t see most of what happens because you don’t control every car
Oh and you didn’t control my ID properly anyway, you piece of shit destroying a border free Europe on behalf of your smug piece of shit political bosses
@jon One time me and a friend with short blue hair, both white, had a book about RAF (German terrorist group, not British Air Force), that is slightly favourable to them, out.
After glancing at our ids, the border cop joked “I should really check your luggage, what with that book,” and we replied “yes, you really should.” He chuckled and went on to harrass a POC family with completely fine papers, instead.
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@jon And how many drivers with invalid driver's license/insurance papers (or forgotten at home) out of 400 random cars? I'm pretty sure you'd find at least 1 too!
@cycling_on_rails @jon I think the scarier number is the amount of drivers that are straight up unfit to drive. be it alcohol or age… and you don't get *any* randomized checks there. plus, you cannot be unfit to be a train passenger, and yet -
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