i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny.
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@jonny My VP, a couple years ago, told a story about using AI to GM a role playing session with him and his friends. At every step it failed: it wasn’t random. They started rolling dice and even when they told it they rolled low, it would say a bad thing happened…but just in the nick of time it all turned out OK. Finally he lamented that, even though they uploaded PDFs of the non-D&D game they wanted to play, the LLM kept applying D&D rules and mechanics. It wouldn’t stay on the right rules for very long.
The VP’s punchline was that people need to know how these things work in order to use them well. Which was ironic because all these failures are really obvious and easy to explain if you understand how LLMs work. And he didn’t. So the failures remained a mystery and cautionary tale to him.
@paco that's also very sad. being a DM is fun. playing a TTRPG is fun. having a human being with judgement and ability to craft a narrative and being in the same room and responsive to the other human beings you are playing a game with together is the whole reason the game is fun
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i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.
@jonny lol, are we at the Singularity yet? I can't tell....
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the fight brewing over the advertising eyeballs is also very funny to me. Amazon blocks Meta's agent product because it destroys their ad market, of course. But since every company is actually an ad company, you'd expect all of them to follow suit unless they reach an arrangement in a shakedown. The idea of consumer chatbot agents being exactly like the fractured streaming landscape is so awesome, subscribing to five different whole life surveillance apps so that you can avoid the tedium of typing "chicken" and clicking "buy" with 100% accuracy in favor of typing "buy chicken" and clicking "send" with some unknowable nonzero failure rate.
@jonny i tell claude mega 8.3748 to buy chicken. two days later a chicken coop flatpack and five live hens arrive at my appartement.
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@jonny Like, not even getting into some of the Nth order risks of, like, your child's data being harvested and weaponized against them before they're even old enough to know what any of that means, just, entrusting one of the known-least-reliable technologies available, who's main purpose is to generate bullshit and propaganda, with anything relating to your kid seems.. like a remarkably bad "Someone should call CPS about it" degree of negligence...
And the people sociopathic enough to think bots can replace human bonding and nurturing, will hand over their kids to a system that is designed to cultivate further sociopathy, eating human relationships and society from the inside out until nobody remembers how to care about each other enough to even know how to WANT to fight back.
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@jonny okay I'll bite.
Parents need help. Desperately.The kinds of tasks they listed: "plan things" and "keep on top of things" are the kinds of things that make parents go "numb" from overwhelm. (as described in the Surgeon General's 2024 report)
While I appreciate your point, "automate love for my children" is offensively skewed.
@travisfw i'm aware of that. planning and keeping on top of things is the best case framing. this particular blog post doesn't go to where the actual CEOs go, but "automating love for my children" is not something i made up to denigrate stressed out parents but to accurately describe what oligarchs think is relatable
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@jonny ... How the fuck do you wake up and decide "Y'know, I'm gonna have the notoriously unreliable slop and propaganda generator automate taking care of my literal human child." and not for a moment pause to realize how horrible a parenting decision that is...
@miss_rodent @jonny It might be bold of you or I to presume that they reflect on parenting decisions in any context, I think.
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AI people literally cannot help but immediately go for "automate love for my children" holy shit HOW is this ALWAYS the first use case. I love how literally everything failed here and the headline still reads "muse is very powerful"
https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-muse-review-access-to-emails-credit-cards-health-data-2026-9@jonny dropping a cinder block on your bare feet is powerful but that doesn't mean you should integrate it into your daily life
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AI people literally cannot help but immediately go for "automate love for my children" holy shit HOW is this ALWAYS the first use case. I love how literally everything failed here and the headline still reads "muse is very powerful"
https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-muse-review-access-to-emails-credit-cards-health-data-2026-9@jonny paywalled
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i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.
@jonny I'm still hung up on the idea that someone would have duplicate paid subscriptions?
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AI people literally cannot help but immediately go for "automate love for my children" holy shit HOW is this ALWAYS the first use case. I love how literally everything failed here and the headline still reads "muse is very powerful"
https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-muse-review-access-to-emails-credit-cards-health-data-2026-9@jonny
> I also asked it to look at my credit and debit cards and tell me what subscription I could cancel — it suggested Flickr (for irrational reasons only understandable to my human soul, I'm keeping it).I love this. The LLM made the wrong suggestion and the writer assumes it's her fault.
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I remember when people use to behave this way with peyote, lsd, and mushrooms.
@oldoldcojote @jonny the Grateful Dead song Estimated Prophet rings through my head pretty much any time a tech person says anything nowadays
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@jonny I'm still hung up on the idea that someone would have duplicate paid subscriptions?
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AI people literally cannot help but immediately go for "automate love for my children" holy shit HOW is this ALWAYS the first use case. I love how literally everything failed here and the headline still reads "muse is very powerful"
https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-muse-review-access-to-emails-credit-cards-health-data-2026-9@jonny Them: how can I automate interactions with my child??
Me: after a day having my soul crushed by LLMs in tech shit while managing multiple chronic health conditions, how do I engage with my tween who doesn’t want to spend time with me so that life feels worthwhile.
(she’s delightful today actually even if she won’t engage with me much.)
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i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.
But other than that, it was great, right?
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the fight brewing over the advertising eyeballs is also very funny to me. Amazon blocks Meta's agent product because it destroys their ad market, of course. But since every company is actually an ad company, you'd expect all of them to follow suit unless they reach an arrangement in a shakedown. The idea of consumer chatbot agents being exactly like the fractured streaming landscape is so awesome, subscribing to five different whole life surveillance apps so that you can avoid the tedium of typing "chicken" and clicking "buy" with 100% accuracy in favor of typing "buy chicken" and clicking "send" with some unknowable nonzero failure rate.
I'll be highly amused when the AIs tear each other appart and transfer corporate bank accounts to unknown locations. Can we feed them something viral to help them along?
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i have seen several other articles and blog posts link to the nyt piece as like "it would be foolish to believe these things weren't useful" and i am convinced that not only do uncritically pro-AI people not read any of the output, they don't read anything anymore.
Have you not ever worked for corporate america. Ignorance of everything outside the company creed is taboo.
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@oldoldcojote @jonny It is not a coincidence that literally the same people are pushing both psychedelics and bullshit generators on the masses. https://www.akjournals.com/view/journals/2054/7/S1/article-p22.xml
The best part is they suck the stuff up themselves. Lethal brain dose is pretty low. I love how many think ketamine is the cats meow.
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oh yeah I mean some of those folks are in charge of these companies ya know, they had a vision and they saw everything!!!!!!!
Mostly the drunks. I use to close deals over bottles of tequilla. I'm good at switching shot glasses.
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i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.
@jonny on the Meta apps, they are desperately trying to push Muse and it's frankly sad. It reminds me of the metaverse debacle.
