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  • alex@pawb.funA alex@pawb.fun

    @alice

    Not a good idea to poison Data - last time someone did that, he wrote bad poetry.

    veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #77

    @alex @alice I have the extended version of that in my "pictures from the internet" folder. ๐Ÿ˜

    mason@partychickens.netM optimisticmoron@mastodon.xyzO farbel@mas.toF brandonscript@appdot.netB theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT 12 Replies Last reply
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    • alex@pawb.funA alex@pawb.fun

      @alice

      Not a good idea to poison Data - last time someone did that, he wrote bad poetry.

      nxskok@cupoftea.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #78

      @alex @alice not, I hope, as bad as the Vogons. Or Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings.

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      • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

        @alex @alice I have the extended version of that in my "pictures from the internet" folder. ๐Ÿ˜

        mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #79

        @veronica I still chuckle at this one:

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        • rabidchaos@hachyderm.ioR rabidchaos@hachyderm.io

          @flesh @alice @aj Probably not. However, corpo software is not always well-designed, and the current crop of layoffs + executives vibe coding make those sorts of vulnerabilities more likely.

          endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #80

          @rabidchaos @flesh @alice @aj
          If it is treating that null as a proper null there's a good chance there's constraints in place that'll fail and the app won't even check the failure...

          Which can be fun, or not, depending on if it counts you as logged in after you submit the form or not

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          • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

            @veronica I still chuckle at this one:

            veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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            veronica@mastodon.online
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #81

            @mason Very nice ๐Ÿ˜„

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            • apriloq@connectop.usA This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #82

              @alice thanks, guess I have a new weekend project! ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฌ

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                Using VPNs set to different locations.

                Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                unlofl@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #83

                @alice I've got an insidious one, I may end up working on an ecommerce thing with a friend selling parts.

                This will involve a lot of compatibility data, partly scraped from supplier catalogs, partly from human knowledge and testing on older vehicles where there isn't easily available anything.

                Obviously we don't let the machines have that, and we can subtly scramble it. We can help make sure AI is the dumbest failure of a mechanic there ever was, and sells people the wrong spark plugs.

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                • patrick@mendeddrum.orgP patrick@mendeddrum.org

                  @Gorfram @alice 1970-01-01 is the first date (Unix)computers start to count from and as such a system often falls back to it when no data is available.

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                  diegomartinez@mstdn.social
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #84

                  @patrick @Gorfram @alice

                  It should be noted that there will be something similar to the Year 2000 Problem somewhere in 2038: the common way to represent time, seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00, as a 32 bit number, will wrap around and make computers think they're in the past.

                  Hopefully(?) we learned from Y2K and are preparing for that event already.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                    jamesdbartlett3@techhub.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    jamesdbartlett3@techhub.social
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #85

                    @alice
                    Agreed on all points except one: If you're providing incorrect data to poison the data broker's systems, please don't just type in a "random" email address unless you're confident that it's not someone's real email address.

                    On any given day, I receive about a dozen emails from various websites where an email address was required for registration, and someone typed in my email address while providing their "fake" info. Pizza order receipts, airline flight confirmations, golf tee time registrations, etc.

                    The worst part is that these are misdirected, but otherwise legitimate emails, so I can't just mark them as spam, because that will poison the spam detection algorithm's dataset.

                    So yeah, if you're gonna type in a fake email address, please make sure that it doesn't belong to someone first, and the easiest way to do that is to use a nonexistent domain, preferably one that no one would ever register, like "${random_guid}.com"

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                    • djtoebeans@mendeddrum.orgD djtoebeans@mendeddrum.org

                      @isol @alice

                      I often use 867-5309. Tell Jenny I said hi!

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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #86

                      @djtoebeans @isol @alice

                      I have gotten discounts on clothes (thanks Raj whoever you are) and I get 10% off store brands (because an employee used that as their alt id on their loyalty card) using the Jenny trick. I hope that I am paying it forward somehow through another loyalty program elsewhere

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                        Using VPNs set to different locations.

                        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                        sephster@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        sephster@fosstodon.org
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #87

                        @alice random q but if a data broker stores my info and I'm not a US citizen, is there any easy route to remove. The usual automatic services require you to be a US citizen

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                        • agturcz@circumstances.runA agturcz@circumstances.run

                          @w_b @alice This itself does nothing. But if you are javascript programmer, and mess something, this is being shown as a string, instead of the real value. So, this is a result of some bug.

                          w_b@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          w_b@mastodon.world
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #88

                          @agturcz @alice

                          Thank you. My last real programming was decades ago in C.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            ๐Ÿ‘ Poison ๐Ÿ‘ your ๐Ÿ‘ data โ˜ ๏ธ

                            viob@eldritch.cafeV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #89

                            @alice (I first read "your date" ยฐ-ยฐ')

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                            • q@social.quotequack.xyzQ q@social.quotequack.xyz

                              @alice
                              รพe skull emoji makes me รพink รพe person clapping got poisoned. rest in peace

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                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #90

                              @q @alice

                              Why do you spell 'รฐe' with a รพ?

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                              • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. ๐Ÿ‘€

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                                #91

                                @theorangetheme @alice haha!

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                                • hypostase@bsd.networkH hypostase@bsd.network

                                  @alice I like to select wrong answers on captchas until I get bored.

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                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #92

                                  @hypostase @alice I do this, I try to identify which are the ones they know so I get those right and which are the ones they are testing, so I can get those wrong

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                                    Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                                    Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                                    Using VPNs set to different locations.

                                    Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                                    Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                                    If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

                                    robcornelius@climatejustice.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    robcornelius@climatejustice.social
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #93

                                    @alice set your name to [Object object] as that is a common front end fuck up

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                                    • viob@eldritch.cafeV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #94

                                      @alice (of course, that kind of people ! ^^)

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        ๐Ÿ‘ Poison ๐Ÿ‘ your ๐Ÿ‘ data โ˜ ๏ธ

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                                        #95

                                        @alice

                                        Delete your google ad ID.. and YES google has assigned you one EVEN IF YOU DON'T USE ANY GOOGLE SERVICES OR PRODUCTS.

                                        https://privacysavvy.com/security/safe-browsing/disable-ad-tracking/

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                                          #96

                                          @alice @djtoebeans @isol
                                          If anyone needs an easy to remember card number that passes 2 very low bars (Luhn validation and a real BIN), take mine:

                                          407 666 31337 31337

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