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  • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

    Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

    Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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    #67
    Not to mention the Prime Directive...
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    • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

      Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

      Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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      #68

      @theleftistlawyer All this is why I'm worried what the new owners of Paramount will do to Star Trek.

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      • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

        Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

        Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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        #69

        @theleftistlawyer Trek was always woke. That’s what made it amazing.

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        • lori@cambrian.socialL lori@cambrian.social
          @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer You can't even get to the Federation by building AncestryDotCom. I remember fondly when Counselor Troi identified a living descendant of one of the survivors of a cryonics mishap and I was blown away by her ability to do that without encountering paywalls. The future we want is open source, including open data.
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          #70

          @lori @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer They don't have money in their society. That's why there aren't any pay walls.

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          • frank87@mastodon.pirateparty.beF frank87@mastodon.pirateparty.be

            @theleftistlawyer Maybe they like the fact it's all organised like a military organisation...

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            #71

            @frank87 @theleftistlawyer Bingo

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            • jadebees@sunny.gardenJ jadebees@sunny.garden

              @theleftistlawyer All this is why I'm worried what the new owners of Paramount will do to Star Trek.

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              #72

              @jadebees @theleftistlawyer They can’t mess with it too much for fear of losing their entire built in audience. We will see a dark age of Star Trek shows that don’t get too political and downplay anything about diversity and “empathy” but hopefully once the orange one is dead or in prison things will go back to normal.

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              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                #73

                @theleftistlawyer I enjoyed every fucking episode of every fucking Star Trek show and I really wish they hadn't cancelled Academy.

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                • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                  Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                  Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                  #74

                  @theleftistlawyer
                  They come for the Kirk’s womanising, but they stay for his wokeness. 🤔

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                  • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                    @theleftistlawyer Anyone who thinks that DS9 wasn't gloriously woke has never watched a single episode and can be mocked relentlessly for being a fake fanboy (it's always a boy).

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                    #75

                    @dresstokilt
                    "You're such a big fan boy, name three episodes."
                    @theleftistlawyer

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                    • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                      Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                      Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                      #76

                      @theleftistlawyer It just morning and you post something so woke I don't even need my coevefe anymore

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                      • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                        @vgoller @theleftistlawyer I think this is a very distant reading of Kirk. He is far less the "punch first, ask questions later, bang everything that moves" caricature that he is made out to be.

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                        #77

                        @dresstokilt @theleftistlawyer you are right.

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                        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                          RWTB: BUT BUT VOYAGER WASN'T WOKE!!

                          Average Voyager Episode: The Doctor travels to a capitalist society where he teaches the people about the need for universal health care as the Captain is holding a hearing on whether Q has a right to bodily autonomy.

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                          #78

                          @theleftistlawyer also: captain is a woman.

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                          • darnell@one.darnell.oneD darnell@one.darnell.one

                            @theleftistlawyer That is confusing as Star Trek has always been a very progressive show. As in decades ahead of its time culturally. Probably more than the average SciFi show.

                            If conservatives want a relatively conservative show, I think Babylon 5 might be in their orbit.

                            I was going to recommend Firefly / Serenity, but it’s too libertarian & diverse for their taste! 😂

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                            #79

                            @darnell

                            One might want to show it to them, but not for the reasons that you might think.

                            Babylon 5 is the one that had a fascist regime take over Earth, institute a system of enforcers and informants named NightWatch, and bomb civilian targets on Mars; which is eventually defeated by a coalition of diverse species co-lead by a mixed-species person.

                            G'Kar had elements of Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi. Garibaldi didn't like corrupt corporations. Ivanova was in a same-sex relationship. Sinclair had PTSD. Neroon became a peacenik.

                            The show addressed slavery, social inequity, torture, mind control, racism/speciesism, collaborators, genocide, self-destruction, suppression of opposition, and sending people to die in wars.

                            One of its episodes, 'The Illusion of Truth' which showed how the Earth regime distorted the news for propaganda purposes, was even considered for use in university courses in the U.S.A..

                            http://midwinter.com/lurk/guide/074.html

                            @theleftistlawyer

                            #Babylon5

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                              #80

                              @JdeBP @theleftistlawyer Yep! Oh! I forgot the main character married outside of his species, so maybe Babylon 5 is not a great show to recommend.

                              Maybe Starship Troopers then‽ 🤪

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                              • alliat@social.vivaldi.netA alliat@social.vivaldi.net

                                @theleftistlawyer It's been a great while since I watched TOS. All I can remember is Kirk repeatedly slapping hysterical women. Oh and Abraham Lincoln manifesting on the ship and calling Uhura the N-word.

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                                #81

                                @Alliat @theleftistlawyer Lincoln was apologetic, and said that "negris" was the term they used in his time.

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                                • vgoller@nrw.socialV vgoller@nrw.social

                                  @theleftistlawyer the difference - Kirk used every possibility to pull off his shirt. Picard, Sisco, and Pike are less narcissistic

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                                  #82

                                  @vgoller @theleftistlawyer I suspect those who don't think Star Trek, The Original Series was woke are those who are to shallow to ge past the miniskirts and go go boots.

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                                  • andymoose@fedi.aiga.rocksA andymoose@fedi.aiga.rocks

                                    @frank87 @theleftistlawyer Bingo

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                                    #83

                                    @andymoose @theleftistlawyer If you look at Star Trek that way, it becomes pretty depressing: the military in service of a few high ranking officers playing around.
                                    "Work harder, the captain needs to get layed"...

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                                    • R robinadams@mathstodon.xyz

                                      @JTinMI @theleftistlawyer Binge watched TOS recently.

                                      There's a quick moment in an early episode. The turbolift doors open to reveal Uhura. She shoots a look to the two white male lower-ranking crewmembers who were waiting for the lift, and they step out of her way.

                                      This at a time when black people had to step out of white people's way on the sidewalk.

                                      Subtle but powerful.

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                                      #84

                                      @robinadams @JTinMI @theleftistlawyer I saw that but sadly did not comprehend the significance.

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                                      • darnell@one.darnell.oneD darnell@one.darnell.one

                                        @JdeBP @theleftistlawyer Yep! Oh! I forgot the main character married outside of his species, so maybe Babylon 5 is not a great show to recommend.

                                        Maybe Starship Troopers then‽ 🤪

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                                        #85

                                        @darnell @JdeBP @theleftistlawyer starship troopers, at least if you read the the book and get the references in the movie, is basically one huge criticism of authoritarian regimes managing the population through jingoism, propaganda, and endless wars. Again, not ideal if you’re at all able to get past the surface.

                                        +1 for Babylon 5 too. I loved that. Overdue for a reboot

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                                        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                          Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                                          Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                                          #86

                                          @theleftistlawyer Every naZionalism and fascism relies on an entirely made up myth to anchor its substance-less armature of idiocy.

                                          Given that fascism IS all about the economic top exploiters supporting the one guy (arbitrary) rule, is it any surprise that techbros are the quintessential, inherent fascist pieces of shit du jour?

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