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  • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

    Timotheus Höttges, CEO, Deutsche Telekom

    we used to have global values chains now: tech nationalism
    we had physical ownership, now we have digital access, who owns?

    we used to have proprietary systems, now everything is about openness and interoperability, setting the standards defines the access and quality; is this us?

    old: digitalisation; new: superinteilligence he gives EU zero for this. "Ai is able to reason, ai is able to create, it's creating autonomous systems"

    #digitalsovereignty

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    #11

    old: industry 4.o new: "physical ai"

    "put your blinkers on and cross the river feeling the stones.

    Cristina Caffarra, Expert in Digital Markets / Euro Stack Initiative
    stack is only chips, we need to regain contol on this.
    we did a complete wrong term when we thought regulation would give us an industry [no, we thought it would give us a large, solid, sustainable, secure market, and we were right. Last I knew she took a lot of money from Apple and Microsoft?]

    #digitalsovereignty

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      old: industry 4.o new: "physical ai"

      "put your blinkers on and cross the river feeling the stones.

      Cristina Caffarra, Expert in Digital Markets / Euro Stack Initiative
      stack is only chips, we need to regain contol on this.
      we did a complete wrong term when we thought regulation would give us an industry [no, we thought it would give us a large, solid, sustainable, secure market, and we were right. Last I knew she took a lot of money from Apple and Microsoft?]

      #digitalsovereignty

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      #12

      Surprisingly, Rolf Schumann, Co-CEO, Schwarz Digits
      Octave Klaba, CEO, OVHcloud
      are kind of boring after all that (which I only reported, didn't entirely agree with, but Höttges in particular was quite the speaker.) Caffara though does pound on the idea of government procurement at a minimum being localised, says that's fair since the whole world does it (?) and calls BS on people saying that there is in fact adequate products out there she says they still need to be built. #digitalsovereignty

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        Surprisingly, Rolf Schumann, Co-CEO, Schwarz Digits
        Octave Klaba, CEO, OVHcloud
        are kind of boring after all that (which I only reported, didn't entirely agree with, but Höttges in particular was quite the speaker.) Caffara though does pound on the idea of government procurement at a minimum being localised, says that's fair since the whole world does it (?) and calls BS on people saying that there is in fact adequate products out there she says they still need to be built. #digitalsovereignty

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        #13

        Final #digitalsovereignty panel before lunch: Europe: The Continent of AI Opportunities

        Vanessa Cann, AI Leader, Entrepreneur, Business Angel
        Christian Klein, CEO, SAP
        Arthur Mensch, Founder and CEO, Mistral
        Robin Rombach, CEO and Co-Founder, Black Forest Labs
        Christel Heydemann, CEO, Orange Group

        lots of idioms being thrown around.

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          Final #digitalsovereignty panel before lunch: Europe: The Continent of AI Opportunities

          Vanessa Cann, AI Leader, Entrepreneur, Business Angel
          Christian Klein, CEO, SAP
          Arthur Mensch, Founder and CEO, Mistral
          Robin Rombach, CEO and Co-Founder, Black Forest Labs
          Christel Heydemann, CEO, Orange Group

          lots of idioms being thrown around.

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          #14

          I'm kind of agreeing with someone (Vanessa Cann?): the race isn't over it's barely begun. Well, unless you look at the #climateCrisis; it's possible large-scale tech innovation will end within 30 years or so & AI started in the 1950s. But for sure outcomes are unpredictable in periods of enormous inequality & yet enormous digital accessibility like now. Anything could come up anywhere in the world, which is why the US harms itself when fighting its EU siblings in democracy. #digitalsovereignty

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            I'm kind of agreeing with someone (Vanessa Cann?): the race isn't over it's barely begun. Well, unless you look at the #climateCrisis; it's possible large-scale tech innovation will end within 30 years or so & AI started in the 1950s. But for sure outcomes are unpredictable in periods of enormous inequality & yet enormous digital accessibility like now. Anything could come up anywhere in the world, which is why the US harms itself when fighting its EU siblings in democracy. #digitalsovereignty

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            #15

            We're back to hear more bashing on the regulation that's helping us not demolish our own security like the US is and UK has. This time from Ralf Wintergerst, President, Bitkom in the context of

            The EUDI Wallet: A Key Enabler in Building a Digital Europe Rooted in Sovereignty, Trust and #Interoperability

            (everyone is talking about interoperability today but no one can pronounce it 😄 I shouldn't joke my German and French are also terrible.) #digitalsovereignty #digitalGovernance #AIEthics

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              We're back to hear more bashing on the regulation that's helping us not demolish our own security like the US is and UK has. This time from Ralf Wintergerst, President, Bitkom in the context of

              The EUDI Wallet: A Key Enabler in Building a Digital Europe Rooted in Sovereignty, Trust and #Interoperability

              (everyone is talking about interoperability today but no one can pronounce it 😄 I shouldn't joke my German and French are also terrible.) #digitalsovereignty #digitalGovernance #AIEthics

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              #16

              More speakers:
              Roberto Viola, Director-General, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC
              Kristina Yasuda, Product Owner, SPRIND
              Anne-Gaëlle Baudouin, Executive Director, ANTS
              Agnès Diallo, CEO, IN Groupe
              Oliver Lauer, CDO, Deutscher Sparkassen- und Giroverband

              Am I the only one who doesn't like having my phone near readers? Is this really all cybersecure in all circumstances? I feel a lot safer waving cards and circulating cash #digitalsovereignty #cybersecurity #digitalWallet #personalSecurity

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                More speakers:
                Roberto Viola, Director-General, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC
                Kristina Yasuda, Product Owner, SPRIND
                Anne-Gaëlle Baudouin, Executive Director, ANTS
                Agnès Diallo, CEO, IN Groupe
                Oliver Lauer, CDO, Deutscher Sparkassen- und Giroverband

                Am I the only one who doesn't like having my phone near readers? Is this really all cybersecure in all circumstances? I feel a lot safer waving cards and circulating cash #digitalsovereignty #cybersecurity #digitalWallet #personalSecurity

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                #17

                How does letting children have wallets on their phones link up with those trying to prevent children and therefore everyone from having #cybersecurity?

                #digitalWallet #digitalSovereignty #chatControl #encryption

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                  How does letting children have wallets on their phones link up with those trying to prevent children and therefore everyone from having #cybersecurity?

                  #digitalWallet #digitalSovereignty #chatControl #encryption

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                  #18

                  Glad to have someone talking about the fact that not every one has or wants or can afford a smart phone! Agnès Diallo talks about digital inclusion (which gets dropped again without further address.) One problem with our excellent money laundering rules was that 20% of the world couldn't meet the requirements and were excluded from banking, and thus made natural allies with kleptocrats, Musk & Thiel. #digitalsovereignty #socialCohesion #inequality

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                    Glad to have someone talking about the fact that not every one has or wants or can afford a smart phone! Agnès Diallo talks about digital inclusion (which gets dropped again without further address.) One problem with our excellent money laundering rules was that 20% of the world couldn't meet the requirements and were excluded from banking, and thus made natural allies with kleptocrats, Musk & Thiel. #digitalsovereignty #socialCohesion #inequality

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                    #19

                    Slightly delayed #digitalSovereignty keynote: Caroline Stage Olsen, Minister for Digital Affairs, Denmark

                    "European strength has never come from building walls" #Berlin

                    I love Denmark, but not that both of their diplomats to the US big tech got hired by Microsoft after they finished their terms.

                    She's proposing that we make the EU sovereign by eliminating its laws. You can move "decryption" of the law forward WITHOUT changing the law, but by education & services.

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                      Slightly delayed #digitalSovereignty keynote: Caroline Stage Olsen, Minister for Digital Affairs, Denmark

                      "European strength has never come from building walls" #Berlin

                      I love Denmark, but not that both of their diplomats to the US big tech got hired by Microsoft after they finished their terms.

                      She's proposing that we make the EU sovereign by eliminating its laws. You can move "decryption" of the law forward WITHOUT changing the law, but by education & services.

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                      #20

                      DK holds the EU presidency right now.

                      At lunch, we discussed how the proposed delay of enforcement of the #AIAct is a consequence of allowing the centralisation of enforcement in the EC. While an understandable response to the GDPR enforcement issues, but neither a smart nor the best one. Centralising power facilitates regulatory capture.

                      #digitalSovereignty for the EU should involve exploiting the resilient resource of our 27+ governments. We don't want veto players. We do want #enforcement

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                        DK holds the EU presidency right now.

                        At lunch, we discussed how the proposed delay of enforcement of the #AIAct is a consequence of allowing the centralisation of enforcement in the EC. While an understandable response to the GDPR enforcement issues, but neither a smart nor the best one. Centralising power facilitates regulatory capture.

                        #digitalSovereignty for the EU should involve exploiting the resilient resource of our 27+ governments. We don't want veto players. We do want #enforcement

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                        #21

                        This supposed half hour panel is very European somehow. #digitalSovereignty

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                          This supposed half hour panel is very European somehow. #digitalSovereignty

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                          #22

                          My seat mate, Anke Domscheit-Berg (former Linke MP) gets me to stop being snarky to listen to Thomas Jarzombek, Parliamentary State Secretary, Federal Ministry for Digital Transformation and Government Modernisation, Germany whom she says isn't as bad as some of the ones who went before, but TBH I didn't catch much new from him either.

                          #digitalsovereignty

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                            My seat mate, Anke Domscheit-Berg (former Linke MP) gets me to stop being snarky to listen to Thomas Jarzombek, Parliamentary State Secretary, Federal Ministry for Digital Transformation and Government Modernisation, Germany whom she says isn't as bad as some of the ones who went before, but TBH I didn't catch much new from him either.

                            #digitalsovereignty

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                            #23

                            The panel is The Power of Digital Commons: Building Europe’s Shared Digital Future

                            Art de Blaauw, CIO Dutch Central Government, Ministry of the Interior & Kingdom Relations, apparently was just elected the first president of a committee (edict?) on digital commons within the EU. He makes a nice speech but again no news…oh here's some news! Docs, open source govtech document editor built by DE FR & NL. Which I cannot find even searching with @kagihq 300K people are using it? #digitalSovereignty

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                              The panel is The Power of Digital Commons: Building Europe’s Shared Digital Future

                              Art de Blaauw, CIO Dutch Central Government, Ministry of the Interior & Kingdom Relations, apparently was just elected the first president of a committee (edict?) on digital commons within the EU. He makes a nice speech but again no news…oh here's some news! Docs, open source govtech document editor built by DE FR & NL. Which I cannot find even searching with @kagihq 300K people are using it? #digitalSovereignty

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                              #24

                              It's a little weird hearing an Austrian talking about since the beginning of humanity technology determined empires. He said EDIC started in Vienna only 8 weeks ago hmm I think this is DC-EDIC https://www.zendis.de/en/newsroom/press/dc-edic-gegruendet which is one of the special cases of EDICs https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/edic
                              Alexander Pröll, State Secretary for Digitalisation, Federal Chancellery, Austria

                              still failing to find it online...
                              #edic #digitalSovereignty

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                                It's a little weird hearing an Austrian talking about since the beginning of humanity technology determined empires. He said EDIC started in Vienna only 8 weeks ago hmm I think this is DC-EDIC https://www.zendis.de/en/newsroom/press/dc-edic-gegruendet which is one of the special cases of EDICs https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/edic
                                Alexander Pröll, State Secretary for Digitalisation, Federal Chancellery, Austria

                                still failing to find it online...
                                #edic #digitalSovereignty

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                                #25

                                I believe it was Adriana Groh, Managing Director, Sovereign Tech Agency

                                who just said

                                "this [independent, multi provider, open source software?] is the mission of the sovereign tech agency...infrastructure is power "

                                Corinne Cath, Digital Policy and Infrastructure Governance Expert @article19

                                The attacks on infrastructure are attacks on democracy disguised as glitches. These were timed to interfere with Danish elections.

                                #digitalSovereignty

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                                  I believe it was Adriana Groh, Managing Director, Sovereign Tech Agency

                                  who just said

                                  "this [independent, multi provider, open source software?] is the mission of the sovereign tech agency...infrastructure is power "

                                  Corinne Cath, Digital Policy and Infrastructure Governance Expert @article19

                                  The attacks on infrastructure are attacks on democracy disguised as glitches. These were timed to interfere with Danish elections.

                                  #digitalSovereignty

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                                  #26

                                  #digitalSovereignty

                                  In general, Corinne Cath, was awesome (as always) Someone finally calling this warfare out, really talking about why this matters.

                                  "We cannot be turned off by accident, or as is increasingly likely in 2025, by intent."

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                                    #digitalSovereignty

                                    In general, Corinne Cath, was awesome (as always) Someone finally calling this warfare out, really talking about why this matters.

                                    "We cannot be turned off by accident, or as is increasingly likely in 2025, by intent."

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                                    #27

                                    Now Emmanuel Sardet, President of Cigref and Vice-CIO, Crédit Agricole talks good sense, yay! The last thing we as a bank need is agentic AI forced won our throats. The EU's lead on B2B AI is super, super important.

                                    Fairer Markets in Support of #DigitalSovereignty is the new panel he's on. The panels are getting better and better, I guess because Macron & Merz are closing the day!

                                    They are talking about how important the #DMA is, but they could equally say #GDPR https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7357055079889207299/

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                                      Now Emmanuel Sardet, President of Cigref and Vice-CIO, Crédit Agricole talks good sense, yay! The last thing we as a bank need is agentic AI forced won our throats. The EU's lead on B2B AI is super, super important.

                                      Fairer Markets in Support of #DigitalSovereignty is the new panel he's on. The panels are getting better and better, I guess because Macron & Merz are closing the day!

                                      They are talking about how important the #DMA is, but they could equally say #GDPR https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7357055079889207299/

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                                      #28

                                      This #digitalSovereignty panel is great. Alexandre de Streel, Professor of EU Law, CERRE and Université de Namur was just on an absolute tear about how great a champion Trump is for the #DMA that we can all see why we must enforce this.

                                      Before him, Filomena Chirico, Head of Unit Digital Markets, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC took a long turn talking good sense about the value of the DMA. She's now talking again about the good stuff about cloud in the DMA.

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                                        This #digitalSovereignty panel is great. Alexandre de Streel, Professor of EU Law, CERRE and Université de Namur was just on an absolute tear about how great a champion Trump is for the #DMA that we can all see why we must enforce this.

                                        Before him, Filomena Chirico, Head of Unit Digital Markets, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC took a long turn talking good sense about the value of the DMA. She's now talking again about the good stuff about cloud in the DMA.

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                                        #29

                                        de Streel is also back now, pointing out that we had #openSource for DECADES and it wasn't saving us and this is now we now need #digitalGovernance #digitalRegulation. YES!! Contra the nonsense earlier in the day, this legislation is entirely ex post!

                                        #digitalSovereignty

                                        Sardet back too: we all talk about #interoperability but no users are changing and everyone just procures from hyperscalers. ABSOLUTELY! https://joanna-bryson.blogspot.com/2021/05/neither-interoperability-nor-data.html no one believed me, I guess I should send that to him 🙂 #DMA

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                                          de Streel is also back now, pointing out that we had #openSource for DECADES and it wasn't saving us and this is now we now need #digitalGovernance #digitalRegulation. YES!! Contra the nonsense earlier in the day, this legislation is entirely ex post!

                                          #digitalSovereignty

                                          Sardet back too: we all talk about #interoperability but no users are changing and everyone just procures from hyperscalers. ABSOLUTELY! https://joanna-bryson.blogspot.com/2021/05/neither-interoperability-nor-data.html no one believed me, I guess I should send that to him 🙂 #DMA

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                                          #30

                                          chair: are you sure the #DMA is going to solve this? Verena Pausder, Chair, German Startup Association
                                          I can't promise but it is a sword and we need to use it. Startups aren't always talking about regulation but we all want this.

                                          She also wants regulation to get some of the $300B/year invested into German pensions (incl. by me!) to go into VC, some fraction of a percent is now. Easily fixable without too much risk! #digitalSovereignty

                                          Open source is an illusion without infrastructure.

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