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  • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

    More speakers:
    Roberto Viola, Director-General, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC
    Kristina Yasuda, Product Owner, SPRIND
    Anne-Gaëlle Baudouin, Executive Director, ANTS
    Agnès Diallo, CEO, IN Groupe
    Oliver Lauer, CDO, Deutscher Sparkassen- und Giroverband

    Am I the only one who doesn't like having my phone near readers? Is this really all cybersecure in all circumstances? I feel a lot safer waving cards and circulating cash #digitalsovereignty #cybersecurity #digitalWallet #personalSecurity

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    #17

    How does letting children have wallets on their phones link up with those trying to prevent children and therefore everyone from having #cybersecurity?

    #digitalWallet #digitalSovereignty #chatControl #encryption

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      How does letting children have wallets on their phones link up with those trying to prevent children and therefore everyone from having #cybersecurity?

      #digitalWallet #digitalSovereignty #chatControl #encryption

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      #18

      Glad to have someone talking about the fact that not every one has or wants or can afford a smart phone! Agnès Diallo talks about digital inclusion (which gets dropped again without further address.) One problem with our excellent money laundering rules was that 20% of the world couldn't meet the requirements and were excluded from banking, and thus made natural allies with kleptocrats, Musk & Thiel. #digitalsovereignty #socialCohesion #inequality

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        Glad to have someone talking about the fact that not every one has or wants or can afford a smart phone! Agnès Diallo talks about digital inclusion (which gets dropped again without further address.) One problem with our excellent money laundering rules was that 20% of the world couldn't meet the requirements and were excluded from banking, and thus made natural allies with kleptocrats, Musk & Thiel. #digitalsovereignty #socialCohesion #inequality

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        #19

        Slightly delayed #digitalSovereignty keynote: Caroline Stage Olsen, Minister for Digital Affairs, Denmark

        "European strength has never come from building walls" #Berlin

        I love Denmark, but not that both of their diplomats to the US big tech got hired by Microsoft after they finished their terms.

        She's proposing that we make the EU sovereign by eliminating its laws. You can move "decryption" of the law forward WITHOUT changing the law, but by education & services.

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        • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

          Slightly delayed #digitalSovereignty keynote: Caroline Stage Olsen, Minister for Digital Affairs, Denmark

          "European strength has never come from building walls" #Berlin

          I love Denmark, but not that both of their diplomats to the US big tech got hired by Microsoft after they finished their terms.

          She's proposing that we make the EU sovereign by eliminating its laws. You can move "decryption" of the law forward WITHOUT changing the law, but by education & services.

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          #20

          DK holds the EU presidency right now.

          At lunch, we discussed how the proposed delay of enforcement of the #AIAct is a consequence of allowing the centralisation of enforcement in the EC. While an understandable response to the GDPR enforcement issues, but neither a smart nor the best one. Centralising power facilitates regulatory capture.

          #digitalSovereignty for the EU should involve exploiting the resilient resource of our 27+ governments. We don't want veto players. We do want #enforcement

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          • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

            DK holds the EU presidency right now.

            At lunch, we discussed how the proposed delay of enforcement of the #AIAct is a consequence of allowing the centralisation of enforcement in the EC. While an understandable response to the GDPR enforcement issues, but neither a smart nor the best one. Centralising power facilitates regulatory capture.

            #digitalSovereignty for the EU should involve exploiting the resilient resource of our 27+ governments. We don't want veto players. We do want #enforcement

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            #21

            This supposed half hour panel is very European somehow. #digitalSovereignty

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              This supposed half hour panel is very European somehow. #digitalSovereignty

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              #22

              My seat mate, Anke Domscheit-Berg (former Linke MP) gets me to stop being snarky to listen to Thomas Jarzombek, Parliamentary State Secretary, Federal Ministry for Digital Transformation and Government Modernisation, Germany whom she says isn't as bad as some of the ones who went before, but TBH I didn't catch much new from him either.

              #digitalsovereignty

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                My seat mate, Anke Domscheit-Berg (former Linke MP) gets me to stop being snarky to listen to Thomas Jarzombek, Parliamentary State Secretary, Federal Ministry for Digital Transformation and Government Modernisation, Germany whom she says isn't as bad as some of the ones who went before, but TBH I didn't catch much new from him either.

                #digitalsovereignty

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                #23

                The panel is The Power of Digital Commons: Building Europe’s Shared Digital Future

                Art de Blaauw, CIO Dutch Central Government, Ministry of the Interior & Kingdom Relations, apparently was just elected the first president of a committee (edict?) on digital commons within the EU. He makes a nice speech but again no news…oh here's some news! Docs, open source govtech document editor built by DE FR & NL. Which I cannot find even searching with @kagihq 300K people are using it? #digitalSovereignty

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                • j2bryson@mastodon.socialJ j2bryson@mastodon.social

                  The panel is The Power of Digital Commons: Building Europe’s Shared Digital Future

                  Art de Blaauw, CIO Dutch Central Government, Ministry of the Interior & Kingdom Relations, apparently was just elected the first president of a committee (edict?) on digital commons within the EU. He makes a nice speech but again no news…oh here's some news! Docs, open source govtech document editor built by DE FR & NL. Which I cannot find even searching with @kagihq 300K people are using it? #digitalSovereignty

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                  #24

                  It's a little weird hearing an Austrian talking about since the beginning of humanity technology determined empires. He said EDIC started in Vienna only 8 weeks ago hmm I think this is DC-EDIC https://www.zendis.de/en/newsroom/press/dc-edic-gegruendet which is one of the special cases of EDICs https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/edic
                  Alexander Pröll, State Secretary for Digitalisation, Federal Chancellery, Austria

                  still failing to find it online...
                  #edic #digitalSovereignty

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                    It's a little weird hearing an Austrian talking about since the beginning of humanity technology determined empires. He said EDIC started in Vienna only 8 weeks ago hmm I think this is DC-EDIC https://www.zendis.de/en/newsroom/press/dc-edic-gegruendet which is one of the special cases of EDICs https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/edic
                    Alexander Pröll, State Secretary for Digitalisation, Federal Chancellery, Austria

                    still failing to find it online...
                    #edic #digitalSovereignty

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                    #25

                    I believe it was Adriana Groh, Managing Director, Sovereign Tech Agency

                    who just said

                    "this [independent, multi provider, open source software?] is the mission of the sovereign tech agency...infrastructure is power "

                    Corinne Cath, Digital Policy and Infrastructure Governance Expert @article19

                    The attacks on infrastructure are attacks on democracy disguised as glitches. These were timed to interfere with Danish elections.

                    #digitalSovereignty

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                      I believe it was Adriana Groh, Managing Director, Sovereign Tech Agency

                      who just said

                      "this [independent, multi provider, open source software?] is the mission of the sovereign tech agency...infrastructure is power "

                      Corinne Cath, Digital Policy and Infrastructure Governance Expert @article19

                      The attacks on infrastructure are attacks on democracy disguised as glitches. These were timed to interfere with Danish elections.

                      #digitalSovereignty

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                      #26

                      #digitalSovereignty

                      In general, Corinne Cath, was awesome (as always) Someone finally calling this warfare out, really talking about why this matters.

                      "We cannot be turned off by accident, or as is increasingly likely in 2025, by intent."

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                        #digitalSovereignty

                        In general, Corinne Cath, was awesome (as always) Someone finally calling this warfare out, really talking about why this matters.

                        "We cannot be turned off by accident, or as is increasingly likely in 2025, by intent."

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                        #27

                        Now Emmanuel Sardet, President of Cigref and Vice-CIO, Crédit Agricole talks good sense, yay! The last thing we as a bank need is agentic AI forced won our throats. The EU's lead on B2B AI is super, super important.

                        Fairer Markets in Support of #DigitalSovereignty is the new panel he's on. The panels are getting better and better, I guess because Macron & Merz are closing the day!

                        They are talking about how important the #DMA is, but they could equally say #GDPR https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7357055079889207299/

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                          Now Emmanuel Sardet, President of Cigref and Vice-CIO, Crédit Agricole talks good sense, yay! The last thing we as a bank need is agentic AI forced won our throats. The EU's lead on B2B AI is super, super important.

                          Fairer Markets in Support of #DigitalSovereignty is the new panel he's on. The panels are getting better and better, I guess because Macron & Merz are closing the day!

                          They are talking about how important the #DMA is, but they could equally say #GDPR https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7357055079889207299/

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                          #28

                          This #digitalSovereignty panel is great. Alexandre de Streel, Professor of EU Law, CERRE and Université de Namur was just on an absolute tear about how great a champion Trump is for the #DMA that we can all see why we must enforce this.

                          Before him, Filomena Chirico, Head of Unit Digital Markets, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC took a long turn talking good sense about the value of the DMA. She's now talking again about the good stuff about cloud in the DMA.

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                            This #digitalSovereignty panel is great. Alexandre de Streel, Professor of EU Law, CERRE and Université de Namur was just on an absolute tear about how great a champion Trump is for the #DMA that we can all see why we must enforce this.

                            Before him, Filomena Chirico, Head of Unit Digital Markets, DG Networks, Content and Technology, EC took a long turn talking good sense about the value of the DMA. She's now talking again about the good stuff about cloud in the DMA.

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                            #29

                            de Streel is also back now, pointing out that we had #openSource for DECADES and it wasn't saving us and this is now we now need #digitalGovernance #digitalRegulation. YES!! Contra the nonsense earlier in the day, this legislation is entirely ex post!

                            #digitalSovereignty

                            Sardet back too: we all talk about #interoperability but no users are changing and everyone just procures from hyperscalers. ABSOLUTELY! https://joanna-bryson.blogspot.com/2021/05/neither-interoperability-nor-data.html no one believed me, I guess I should send that to him 🙂 #DMA

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                              de Streel is also back now, pointing out that we had #openSource for DECADES and it wasn't saving us and this is now we now need #digitalGovernance #digitalRegulation. YES!! Contra the nonsense earlier in the day, this legislation is entirely ex post!

                              #digitalSovereignty

                              Sardet back too: we all talk about #interoperability but no users are changing and everyone just procures from hyperscalers. ABSOLUTELY! https://joanna-bryson.blogspot.com/2021/05/neither-interoperability-nor-data.html no one believed me, I guess I should send that to him 🙂 #DMA

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                              #30

                              chair: are you sure the #DMA is going to solve this? Verena Pausder, Chair, German Startup Association
                              I can't promise but it is a sword and we need to use it. Startups aren't always talking about regulation but we all want this.

                              She also wants regulation to get some of the $300B/year invested into German pensions (incl. by me!) to go into VC, some fraction of a percent is now. Easily fixable without too much risk! #digitalSovereignty

                              Open source is an illusion without infrastructure.

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                                chair: are you sure the #DMA is going to solve this? Verena Pausder, Chair, German Startup Association
                                I can't promise but it is a sword and we need to use it. Startups aren't always talking about regulation but we all want this.

                                She also wants regulation to get some of the $300B/year invested into German pensions (incl. by me!) to go into VC, some fraction of a percent is now. Easily fixable without too much risk! #digitalSovereignty

                                Open source is an illusion without infrastructure.

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                                #31

                                Hey, I'm finally getting engagement here, including links to some of the software mentioned, see thread https://mstdn.social/@testman/115571162035084576 #digitalSovereignty

                                Now the panel is sadly confusing the #DSA and the #DMA. The DSA is supposed to be providing us visibility for recommenders. Oh, de Streel understand this, but there is a competition element given that the agentics are being inserted into widely-used browsers. (I'm switching my browser, email etc. over the local Solstice-associated holidays.)

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                                  Hey, I'm finally getting engagement here, including links to some of the software mentioned, see thread https://mstdn.social/@testman/115571162035084576 #digitalSovereignty

                                  Now the panel is sadly confusing the #DSA and the #DMA. The DSA is supposed to be providing us visibility for recommenders. Oh, de Streel understand this, but there is a competition element given that the agentics are being inserted into widely-used browsers. (I'm switching my browser, email etc. over the local Solstice-associated holidays.)

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                                  #32

                                  Another reason to save the best panel for last – Macron and/or Mertz must be late, this panel has been allowed to go on for an hour now. The panel is still great but the chair seems to be running out of questions 😄 #digitalSovereignty

                                  They could let the audience ask questions...

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                                    Another reason to save the best panel for last – Macron and/or Mertz must be late, this panel has been allowed to go on for an hour now. The panel is still great but the chair seems to be running out of questions 😄 #digitalSovereignty

                                    They could let the audience ask questions...

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                                    #33

                                    TBH I love CloudFlare, nice company and honest last I knew (haven't talked to them for a few years.) But good timing and being well used by the more agile speakers at #digitalSovereignty https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115570551884305954

                                    (via @yala )

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                                      TBH I love CloudFlare, nice company and honest last I knew (haven't talked to them for a few years.) But good timing and being well used by the more agile speakers at #digitalSovereignty https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115570551884305954

                                      (via @yala )

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                                      #34

                                      The last #digitalsovereignty panel is being asked to wrap up! Filomena Chirico says the #DMA is not the whole puzzle, not magic, but a key part of the solution, what matters is #enforcement. de Streel – yes, ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT !!

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                                        The last #digitalsovereignty panel is being asked to wrap up! Filomena Chirico says the #DMA is not the whole puzzle, not magic, but a key part of the solution, what matters is #enforcement. de Streel – yes, ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT !!

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                                        #digitalsovereignty

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                                          #digitalsovereignty

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                                          #36

                                          Merz: the power of the world is changing fast Europe must not be afraid. But there are bottlenecs like chips. We must do everything that's necessry and feasible. We don't want to splinternet though [not sure I agree]. We want to shape all this with all of you [mostlyb business people but some civil society here. French invited more civil scoety / human rights.] We won't exclude anyone who plays by the rules. [awesome, both sides of that] #digitalsovereignty

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