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  • jbjrkng@hachyderm.ioJ jbjrkng@hachyderm.io

    @Em0nM4stodon

    I agree with you.

    But how, in plain English terms, do we convey this to people that don't care?

    divverent@social.vivaldi.netD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @jbjrkng @Em0nM4stodon "The system doesn't accept my ID."

    You know, wrong lighting, bad camera, not enough flash, too much flash, not enough proprietary code in the camera software... or ID not American enough.

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    • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
      Those that don't comply will be the minority, and both politicians and companies count on that - they will be eventually coerced into complying by being shut out of vital tasks, and eventually deemed criminals for being unable to comply with legally mandated government paperwork.
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      #29

      @csolisr That's not how things went down on Discord. Why don't you stop demotivational concern trolling when you don't have anything constructive to offer?

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        @dsmasterson Not if you use a long, complexe, and unique password with a second factor of authentication. Which is something everyone should do for all their accounts.

        dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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        dalias@hachyderm.io
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        #30

        @Em0nM4stodon @dsmasterson Doesn't help when Facebook's support chatbot just resets account credentials for anyone who asks.. 🙃

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

          I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

          This is not a drill.

          If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

          They need you more than you need them.
          Make them fight for your rights.
          Do not comply.
          Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

          #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
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          #31

          @Em0nM4stodon I've had to warn that ALL my online accounts including this one might become irregularily updated if SIM card ID registration is imposed in the US. The FCC has posted essentially a request for comment on this.

          I SHOULD be able to service this account either by wifi or by foreign data-only tourist SIMS, but if neither is possible I will walk away from the Internet rather than risk verifying everything I've ever written with ID

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          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

            @csolisr That's not how things went down on Discord. Why don't you stop demotivational concern trolling when you don't have anything constructive to offer?

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            csolisr@hub.azkware.net
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            #32
            Because Discord was one single site with viable alternatives, so the market logic was still able to pressure them. This is an all-out attack on every single website at once, sponsored simultaneously by the government and the companies, and with actual criminal sanctions for non-compliance - boycotting will eventually become legally impossible. The only feasible remedy is to pressure the governments themselves to change the law.
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            • dsmasterson@fosstodon.orgD dsmasterson@fosstodon.org

              @Em0nM4stodon

              Copycat accounts that look like you but change one character in the username.

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              em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
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              #33

              @dsmasterson But that can still happen whether your account is dormant or not.

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              • starraven@mastodon.scotS starraven@mastodon.scot

                @Em0nM4stodon

                I have already posted on Facebook that should that be required, I will not be back, and posted the throwaway email address I used to register as a means for my friends to contact me.

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                em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
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                #34

                @starraven This is the way 👍

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                  I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                  This is not a drill.

                  If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                  They need you more than you need them.
                  Make them fight for your rights.
                  Do not comply.
                  Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                  #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                  cedo@mastodon.nlC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  cedo@mastodon.nl
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                  #35

                  @Em0nM4stodon Also checkout our blogpost about age-verification:
                  https://eerlijkdigitaalonderwijs.nl/leeftijdsverificatie/

                  #AgeVerification #LeeftijdsVerificatie

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                  • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                    @Em0nM4stodon I will not submit.

                    nieuemma@mastodon.deN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    nieuemma@mastodon.de
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                    #36

                    @nini @Em0nM4stodon

                    We need a face scan and photo ID in order to confirm your refusal.

                    If you change your mind and want to return, you can always come back with a face scan and photo ID.

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                      I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                      This is not a drill.

                      If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                      They need you more than you need them.
                      Make them fight for your rights.
                      Do not comply.
                      Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                      #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                      jcast@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      jcast@mastodon.social
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                      #37

                      @Em0nM4stodon

                      Is this already happening? I'm not using any social media so no idea...

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                        I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                        This is not a drill.

                        If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                        They need you more than you need them.
                        Make them fight for your rights.
                        Do not comply.
                        Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                        #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

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                        menionazalee@mastodon.social
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                        #38

                        @Em0nM4stodon 🇨🇦

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                          I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                          This is not a drill.

                          If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                          They need you more than you need them.
                          Make them fight for your rights.
                          Do not comply.
                          Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                          #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                          ryanhuska@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ryanhuska@mstdn.ca
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                          #39

                          @Em0nM4stodon i keep saying this

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                            I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                            This is not a drill.

                            If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                            They need you more than you need them.
                            Make them fight for your rights.
                            Do not comply.
                            Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                            #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

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                            driveway7exile3glory@toot.community
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                            #40

                            @Em0nM4stodon better yet, just stay off of the socials! Dump Big Tech!

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                            • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                              @Em0nM4stodon I've had to warn that ALL my online accounts including this one might become irregularily updated if SIM card ID registration is imposed in the US. The FCC has posted essentially a request for comment on this.

                              I SHOULD be able to service this account either by wifi or by foreign data-only tourist SIMS, but if neither is possible I will walk away from the Internet rather than risk verifying everything I've ever written with ID

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                              driveway7exile3glory@toot.community
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                              #41

                              @LukefromDC @Em0nM4stodon in theory, anyways, you can ID Verify a Data only Sim, run your actual phone with VOIP, and keep a VPN on. That SHOULD work. I'm looking for anything to keep a grip on my privacy here in the US though, and its getting tougher.

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                              • D driveway7exile3glory@toot.community

                                @LukefromDC @Em0nM4stodon in theory, anyways, you can ID Verify a Data only Sim, run your actual phone with VOIP, and keep a VPN on. That SHOULD work. I'm looking for anything to keep a grip on my privacy here in the US though, and its getting tougher.

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                                lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #42

                                @DRIVEWAY7EXILE3GLORY @Em0nM4stodon I definately won't be keeping a phone number if that requires ID.

                                Signal will work for a while with a dead phone number, unless someone else reclaims it and then installs Signal.

                                I would imagine that an emergency of this level would force Signal's devs to support running Signal Desktop or Signal on a phone with no SIM wifi-only without a phone number.

                                I do not need voice calling service at all, and that's what the FCC claims to be focussing on.

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                                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                  Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                                  I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                                  This is not a drill.

                                  If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                                  They need you more than you need them.
                                  Make them fight for your rights.
                                  Do not comply.
                                  Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                                  #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                                  stevefoerster@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  stevefoerster@social.vivaldi.net
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #43

                                  @Em0nM4stodon You're right, but a bunch of dopamine junkies aren't going to wait for their fix no matter how good for them it would be.

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                                  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                    @DRIVEWAY7EXILE3GLORY @Em0nM4stodon I definately won't be keeping a phone number if that requires ID.

                                    Signal will work for a while with a dead phone number, unless someone else reclaims it and then installs Signal.

                                    I would imagine that an emergency of this level would force Signal's devs to support running Signal Desktop or Signal on a phone with no SIM wifi-only without a phone number.

                                    I do not need voice calling service at all, and that's what the FCC claims to be focussing on.

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                                    driveway7exile3glory@toot.community
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                                    #44

                                    @LukefromDC @Em0nM4stodon Agreed. I hope that Signal dumps the phone requirement soon!

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                                      I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                                      This is not a drill.

                                      If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                                      They need you more than you need them.
                                      Make them fight for your rights.
                                      Do not comply.
                                      Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                                      #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

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                                      novarivera@mastodon.social
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                                      #45

                                      @Em0nM4stodon I'm happy in Mastodon much better than other social networks.

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                                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                        Do not provide your ID or facial scan to access social media.

                                        I repeat, do NOT provide your ID or facial scan to access social media when requested.

                                        This is not a drill.

                                        If everyone refuse to comply, and let their accounts dormant instead, I promise you the platforms themselves, with their immense budget and network of lobbyists, are going to fight these absurd laws to recover their users.

                                        They need you more than you need them.
                                        Make them fight for your rights.
                                        Do not comply.
                                        Spread the word and boycott ID checks ✊

                                        #StopIDSurveillance #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #Democracy #Safety #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                                        maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.seM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #46

                                        @Em0nM4stodon I have already walked away from a decades old linkedin account over this, after microsoft claimed there was a "security issue" with it and the only recovery option was to send them photos of ID etc.

                                        marshray@infosec.exchangeM rho@fosstodon.orgR 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
                                          Because Discord was one single site with viable alternatives, so the market logic was still able to pressure them. This is an all-out attack on every single website at once, sponsored simultaneously by the government and the companies, and with actual criminal sanctions for non-compliance - boycotting will eventually become legally impossible. The only feasible remedy is to pressure the governments themselves to change the law.
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                                          rysiek@mstdn.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #47

                                          @csolisr it's not "boycotting", it's adding as much friction to the process as possible. And "eventually legally impossible" is not "currently legally impossible".

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