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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

    @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

    W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

    No further comment necessary.

    Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

    #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

    bladecoder@androiddev.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #35

    @_elena @EUCommission I don't even understand how this thing works. They claim to have no access to the user's identity data and that it stays local on the device. So why do they need you to scan your passport while they are countless ways to authenticate anonymously?
    In a press report they say that the goal is to confirm you're humain without revealing who you are, yet in the very next sentence they say that they encourage a culture where users engage under their real names, WTF?

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    • jeppe@uddannelse.socialJ jeppe@uddannelse.social shared this topic
    • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

      @ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission

      The App Store and Play Store ARE American, so if that's their conclusion, they failed to understand the question.

      andre123@snowfan.itA This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #36

      @leeloo @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission that's true, but also I don't think they really want (can) break with USA... as long as Trump is slightly more reasonable than usual they will accept whatever and go on without anything serious to differentiate EU. At least it looks like this to me right now.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

        No further comment necessary.

        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

        primetime@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        primetime@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #37

        @_elena @EUCommission
        Buuhhh!!! 👎
        #buuhhh

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

          No further comment necessary.

          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

          oliviabrooks13@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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          oliviabrooks13@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #38

          Interesting move toward digital sovereignty. It will be interesting to see how identity verification shapes user trust and platform adoption in Europe 👀

          @_elena @EUCommission

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          • lepertti@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lepertti@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @_elena @EUCommission Why does it feel like Palantir is behind the scenes there somewhere?

            thebratdragon@mastodon.scotT This user is from outside of this forum
            thebratdragon@mastodon.scotT This user is from outside of this forum
            thebratdragon@mastodon.scot
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #39

            @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

            who needs Palantir when you already have google and apple involved.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

              @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

              W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

              No further comment necessary.

              Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

              #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

              gepeto@framapiaf.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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              gepeto@framapiaf.org
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #40

              @_elena @EUCommission
              encore une lettre de l'alphabet gâchée ...

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                No further comment necessary.

                Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                asturicense@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                asturicense@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #41

                @_elena @EUCommission If they are genuinely seeking digital sovereignty, they should include #fdroid as a software store from which the app can be downloaded.

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                • thezero@infosec.exchangeT thezero@infosec.exchange

                  @bjoern do you have any proof of this?

                  @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

                  bjoern@social.sengotta.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  bjoern@social.sengotta.net
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #42

                  @thezero no. Maybe the smiley at the end should emphasize that this was a sarcastic comment. @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                    @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                    W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                    No further comment necessary.

                    Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                    #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                    lectrodan@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    lectrodan@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #43

                    @_elena @EUCommission partypooper

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                      No further comment necessary.

                      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                      jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      jmcrookston@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #44

                      @_elena

                      Mail us your DNA

                      Scan yer eyeballs

                      Courier us your first finger with fingerprint in a bag of ice

                      jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ 1 Reply Last reply
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                      • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                        @_elena

                        Mail us your DNA

                        Scan yer eyeballs

                        Courier us your first finger with fingerprint in a bag of ice

                        jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        jmcrookston@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #45

                        We have been hacked and we lost all your data and we're not going to be able to return your finger. Sorry!

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                          No further comment necessary.

                          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                          riggbeck@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          riggbeck@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #46

                          @_elena @EUCommission

                          I love the idea of the EU, but sometimes they don't know their arse from their elbow. Proper facepalm moment.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                            @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                            W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                            No further comment necessary.

                            Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                            #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                            mit_scharf@social.anoxinon.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            mit_scharf@social.anoxinon.de
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #47

                            @_elena hoffentlich fällt die @EUCommission damit so richtig auf die fresse. Sorry. Ich will niemandem was Böses- aber halt am liebsten wenn mein gegenüber das auch so sieht.

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                            • andre123@snowfan.itA andre123@snowfan.it

                              @leeloo @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission that's true, but also I don't think they really want (can) break with USA... as long as Trump is slightly more reasonable than usual they will accept whatever and go on without anything serious to differentiate EU. At least it looks like this to me right now.

                              oyu_fka@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              oyu_fka@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #48

                              @andre123 @leeloo @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission 100%! I wouldn't mind betting there'd be, (one-way?), freedom of access agreement with the states anyway - DO NOT TRUST THE #EUCommission - unless you do not mind being observed, and depending on your political viewpoint, being victimised through the various tools we have already seen being used in amerikkka.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                No further comment necessary.

                                Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                                kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                kierkegaanks@beige.party
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                                #49

                                @EUCommission @_elena

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                  @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                  W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                  No further comment necessary.

                                  Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                  #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                                  mathzy@mastodon.greenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mathzy@mastodon.green
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #50

                                  @_elena @EUCommission

                                  Yeah - this was never going to work.

                                  They could have just set up an EU Commission Mastodon instance - much simpler and cheaper!

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                                  • bjoern@social.sengotta.netB bjoern@social.sengotta.net

                                    @thezero no. Maybe the smiley at the end should emphasize that this was a sarcastic comment. @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

                                    thezero@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #51

                                    @bjoern @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission sorry I didn't get the sarcasm and was genuinely interested in it.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                      No further comment necessary.

                                      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                                      dodo_sipping@cupoftea.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #52

                                      @_elena @EUCommission Also apart from that - as Wsocial already plans to monetarize itself starting '28, which means either free (for data) or advertising (with data) - or both, this is not an independent platform AT ALL. The current phase is for getting people socialized there, who then will be too accustomed to it to leave.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                                        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                                        No further comment necessary.

                                        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                                        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                                        branwen74@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #53

                                        @_elena
                                        There is a proper word for people who do stuff like this in Flemish and Dutch: Prutsers.
                                        @EUCommission

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                                        • gilgwath@social.tchncs.deG gilgwath@social.tchncs.de

                                          @_elena @EUCommission So to access this "open" space we need to download an application from the stores from the selfsame companies you criticised for having a gatekeeper roles? AND these are the companies we want to become more independent off. Hypocritical the last degree. Hard to believe that this actually about freedom and sovereignty, and not about building yet another surveillance and censorship apparatus. Just "Under EU controll".

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                                          #54

                                          @gilgwath @_elena @EUCommission Control is the key word here.

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