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  • lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL lykso@tiny.tilde.website

    @cwebber Every day radicalizes me more. I need to figure out what flavor of communist I am now.

    elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

    lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL amici@fribygda.noA xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX 3 Replies Last reply
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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

      https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

      There you go, there it is. Yup.

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      #18

      @cwebber does he look sleep deprived only to me? He also sounds exhausted.

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

        https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

        There you go, there it is. Yup.

        elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @cwebber it's wild how white men get in these positions despite having the charisma of a wet sack of potatoes

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

          https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

          There you go, there it is. Yup.

          cxberger@mastodon.boiler.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @cwebber funny, I recall OpenAI repeatedly saying "too cheap to meter" in the past. Hypocrisy is nothing new from them ofc, but, y'know.

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            I'm not claiming that they're right, that you are actually buying "intelligence" from them by the meter, I think that's misleading.

            But also, the fact that that's the *framing* goes to show to you that they absolutely, completely want it to be, and want to sell intellectual slavery, as far as they can get it.

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            #21

            @cwebber They're inventing a market that they can corner, or at least try their damnedest to.

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            • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

              @lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

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              #22

              @elexia @cwebber Yeah, that's fair. I'm somewhere on that spectrum, but I haven't read enough of either's literature to have a clear idea of where I fall. I'm not a humanist, which seems to make many anarchist positions difficult, but I also recognize that the State is fundamentally a protection racket.

              If I say any more, I'm definitely going to say something stupid (if I haven't already!). Better for me to listen, I think.

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                There you go, there it is. Yup.

                mzedp@plasmatrap.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #23

                @cwebber@social.coop So, if using this is actively harmful to the intellect of the users that just feeds their business model.

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                • moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM moira@mastodon.murkworks.net

                  @cwebber non-X-hosted copy of the video

                  #dystopian #AI #SamAltman #evil #intelligence

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                  #24

                  @moira @cwebber this man must be stopped

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                    https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                    There you go, there it is. Yup.

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                    #25

                    @cwebber @jalefkowit

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                      https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                      There you go, there it is. Yup.

                      joshin4colours@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @cwebber oof was not ready for that pull quote

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        I'm not claiming that they're right, that you are actually buying "intelligence" from them by the meter, I think that's misleading.

                        But also, the fact that that's the *framing* goes to show to you that they absolutely, completely want it to be, and want to sell intellectual slavery, as far as they can get it.

                        jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

                        Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

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                        • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                          @lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

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                          #28

                          @elexia @lykso @cwebber

                          anarchists are communists, at least the anarchists who take the name from the first international, from which it was used to describe those who did not believe in Marx's idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat as a temporary continuation of the state apparatus

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                          • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                            @cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

                            Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

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                            #29

                            @jenniferplusplus

                            Yeah, I think I'm in pretty strong agreement with this.

                            That what's being 'sold' is 'work' not 'intelligence'. It's not _thinking_ about a problem it's _iterating_ until it's RNG kicks out a good-enough solution. An endless parade of, "How 'bout this one, boss? 😃"

                            Intelligence isn't manifested in 'work'.

                            The choice of the word 'intelligence' is a deliberate mislabeling of what they would _like_ to be selling.

                            @cwebber

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                              https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                              There you go, there it is. Yup.

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                              #30

                              @cwebber 😱 🤮

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                              • amici@fribygda.noA amici@fribygda.no

                                @elexia @lykso @cwebber

                                anarchists are communists, at least the anarchists who take the name from the first international, from which it was used to describe those who did not believe in Marx's idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat as a temporary continuation of the state apparatus

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                                #31

                                @amici @lykso @cwebber I think that is an oversimplification even for the time, but in any case we don't live in the 19th century anymore and people have had a lot of different thoughts on both anarchism and communism since then. as such many anarchists these days don't identify as communists and do not necessarily share positions you might see as defining for communism.

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                                  https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                                  There you go, there it is. Yup.

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                                  #32

                                  @cwebber

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                                  • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                                    @cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

                                    Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

                                    megmac@social.treehouse.systemsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #33

                                    @jenniferplusplus @cwebber yes! This is a thing I keep coming back to in how I feel about what's going on. The effort here is to build the ultimate "rent a shovel" service where the entire economy is dependent on an oligopoly of cloud providers to functionally do work.

                                    I can live with a lot of things I don't like, but that's basically anathema to me.

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                                    • lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL lykso@tiny.tilde.website

                                      @cwebber Every day radicalizes me more. I need to figure out what flavor of communist I am now.

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                                      #34

                                      @lykso @cwebber Some flavour of Marxist.

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                                      • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                                        @amici @lykso @cwebber I think that is an oversimplification even for the time, but in any case we don't live in the 19th century anymore and people have had a lot of different thoughts on both anarchism and communism since then. as such many anarchists these days don't identify as communists and do not necessarily share positions you might see as defining for communism.

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                                        #35

                                        @elexia @lykso @cwebber

                                        I agree it's a simplification, but I also have issues with those who try to take away the historical context of anarchism, such as to describe vague and inconsistent relationships with the state and authority overall

                                        ancaps and "lifestyle anarchists" come to mind

                                        in my opinion all anarchists are communists, otherwise their use of the term anarchism is highly suspect - I certainly would like to know why they think their position is significantly different to an ancom

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                                        • amici@fribygda.noA amici@fribygda.no

                                          @elexia @lykso @cwebber

                                          I agree it's a simplification, but I also have issues with those who try to take away the historical context of anarchism, such as to describe vague and inconsistent relationships with the state and authority overall

                                          ancaps and "lifestyle anarchists" come to mind

                                          in my opinion all anarchists are communists, otherwise their use of the term anarchism is highly suspect - I certainly would like to know why they think their position is significantly different to an ancom

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                                          #36

                                          @amici @elexia @cwebber I definitely tend to think of myself as some form of small-c "communist" under which many positions may fall, including anarchist ones.

                                          I recognize that there are people who appropriate the term "anarchist" without understanding the self-contradictory nature of their position, most notably ancaps.

                                          But again, I need to read more.

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