"We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

[john@vyrse.social]

@cwebber Perfect phrasing. I'm sure they'll sell a cheaper price plan if you get your kids to sign on to accepting your debts after you die, too.

[moira@mastodon.murkworks.net]

@PetterOfCats Or really more specifically, since he _does_ cover that - and even says it's bad - it's arguably worse. "We see a future where we control all thought and metre it out for payment, and everyone is already enslaved."

[elexia@catcatnya.com]

@lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

[xgebi@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber does he look sleep deprived only to me? He also sounds exhausted.

[elexia@catcatnya.com]

@cwebber it's wild how white men get in these positions despite having the charisma of a wet sack of potatoes

[cxberger@mastodon.boiler.social]

@cwebber funny, I recall OpenAI repeatedly saying "too cheap to meter" in the past. Hypocrisy is nothing new from them ofc, but, y'know.

[greyduck@wellduck.me]

@cwebber They're inventing a market that they can corner, or at least try their damnedest to.

[lykso@tiny.tilde.website]

@elexia @cwebber Yeah, that's fair. I'm somewhere on that spectrum, but I haven't read enough of either's literature to have a clear idea of where I fall. I'm not a humanist, which seems to make many anarchist positions difficult, but I also recognize that the State is fundamentally a protection racket.

If I say any more, I'm definitely going to say something stupid (if I haven't already!). Better for me to listen, I think.

[mzedp@plasmatrap.com]

@cwebber@social.coop So, if using this is actively harmful to the intellect of the users that just feeds their business model.

[june@mspsocial.net]

@moira @cwebber this man must be stopped

[petrillic@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber @jalefkowit

[joshin4colours@mastodon.social]

@cwebber oof was not ready for that pull quote

[jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

[amici@fribygda.no]

@elexia @lykso @cwebber

anarchists are communists, at least the anarchists who take the name from the first international, from which it was used to describe those who did not believe in Marx's idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat as a temporary continuation of the state apparatus

[401matthall@mastodon.xyz]

@jenniferplusplus

Yeah, I think I'm in pretty strong agreement with this.

That what's being 'sold' is 'work' not 'intelligence'. It's not _thinking_ about a problem it's _iterating_ until it's RNG kicks out a good-enough solution. An endless parade of, "How 'bout this one, boss? "

Intelligence isn't manifested in 'work'.

The choice of the word 'intelligence' is a deliberate mislabeling of what they would _like_ to be selling.

@cwebber

[khrys@mamot.fr]

@cwebber 🤮

[elexia@catcatnya.com]

@amici @lykso @cwebber I think that is an oversimplification even for the time, but in any case we don't live in the 19th century anymore and people have had a lot of different thoughts on both anarchism and communism since then. as such many anarchists these days don't identify as communists and do not necessarily share positions you might see as defining for communism.

[aspensmonster@tenforward.social]

@cwebber

[megmac@social.treehouse.systems]

@jenniferplusplus @cwebber yes! This is a thing I keep coming back to in how I feel about what's going on. The effort here is to build the ultimate "rent a shovel" service where the entire economy is dependent on an oligopoly of cloud providers to functionally do work.

I can live with a lot of things I don't like, but that's basically anathema to me.

[aspensmonster@tenforward.social]

@lykso @cwebber Some flavour of Marxist.