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  • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

    There are now almost 4000 emojis supported in the international Unicode standard, as of last year, with a few to be added this year
    You can look them all up here: https://emojipedia.org/ #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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    #3

    It did all start with πŸ™‚ and 😞 and the start of these emoticons is widely credited to a bulletin board message by Scott Fahlmann in 1982 (where he suggested them as markers of joking or seriousness) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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    • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

      It did all start with πŸ™‚ and 😞 and the start of these emoticons is widely credited to a bulletin board message by Scott Fahlmann in 1982 (where he suggested them as markers of joking or seriousness) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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      #4

      These traditional emoticons created from standard punctuation characters, letters and numbers have been largely crowded out by colorful #emojis in the last 15 years. Emojis started being supported by Japanese mobile communication platforms (phones) in the 80s/90s, but became widespread world-wide only when they were introduced into the international Unicode standard in 2010 - and subsequently supported by all kinds of technology providers and software.
      So the 2010s is when "it all got out of control" @Kuchenschwarte πŸ˜… #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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      • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

        These traditional emoticons created from standard punctuation characters, letters and numbers have been largely crowded out by colorful #emojis in the last 15 years. Emojis started being supported by Japanese mobile communication platforms (phones) in the 80s/90s, but became widespread world-wide only when they were introduced into the international Unicode standard in 2010 - and subsequently supported by all kinds of technology providers and software.
        So the 2010s is when "it all got out of control" @Kuchenschwarte πŸ˜… #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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        #5

        @tschfflr πŸ™‚πŸ™ƒπŸ™‚πŸ™ƒπŸ™‚

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        • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

          These traditional emoticons created from standard punctuation characters, letters and numbers have been largely crowded out by colorful #emojis in the last 15 years. Emojis started being supported by Japanese mobile communication platforms (phones) in the 80s/90s, but became widespread world-wide only when they were introduced into the international Unicode standard in 2010 - and subsequently supported by all kinds of technology providers and software.
          So the 2010s is when "it all got out of control" @Kuchenschwarte πŸ˜… #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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          #6

          (Little aside: The Unicode list provides an international standard of symbol encodings which should be supported - including our Latin characters as well as characters and symbols for hundreds of other languages of the world. This ensures that if you write Hindi or Korean or Arabic or Finnish, another person will be able to decipher and potentially read your digital document. Since 2010, this list also includes emojis - so my "hugging-face" will show on your computer as your "hugging-face" πŸ€— ) #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay #emojis

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          • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

            (Little aside: The Unicode list provides an international standard of symbol encodings which should be supported - including our Latin characters as well as characters and symbols for hundreds of other languages of the world. This ensures that if you write Hindi or Korean or Arabic or Finnish, another person will be able to decipher and potentially read your digital document. Since 2010, this list also includes emojis - so my "hugging-face" will show on your computer as your "hugging-face" πŸ€— ) #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay #emojis

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            #7

            ☝️ However, there is some evidence that #emojis or at least symbols similar to emoticons were used before the internet. Many people know "rebus" examples where words are replaced by little icons like in this children's book. And I've seen an example of a hand-written letter with emoji-like faces as annotations (but I can't find it right now on my computer 😬 ) #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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            • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

              🧐 #AMA on #emojis for #WorldEmojiDay ❗ #linguistics

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              #8

              @tschfflr Can emojis be removed from Unicode? Or are they there forever once they are in?

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              • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                ☝️ However, there is some evidence that #emojis or at least symbols similar to emoticons were used before the internet. Many people know "rebus" examples where words are replaced by little icons like in this children's book. And I've seen an example of a hand-written letter with emoji-like faces as annotations (but I can't find it right now on my computer 😬 ) #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                #9

                Two other writing systems are often compared to #emojis: #Chinese characters and #hieroglyphs. @Kuchenschwarte
                I'm not really an expert on either, but I did study Chinese in university and recently had a long conversation with an Egyptologist colleague (who gave me the 101 on hieroglyphs πŸ˜„ ). Egyptian hieroglyphic writing was an alphabet (ie, each character roughly corresponds to a sound like p, t, k). So while the hieroglyphs resemble objects, they were not read as such, at least not in the later stages. (Btw. Latin characters also developed from picture-like objects in many cases, but it's been a long time since these pictures were recognizable)
                Thus, emojis do not resemble Egyptian hieroglyphs in my view - each emoji corresponds most closely to a word or concept, not a single letter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                  Two other writing systems are often compared to #emojis: #Chinese characters and #hieroglyphs. @Kuchenschwarte
                  I'm not really an expert on either, but I did study Chinese in university and recently had a long conversation with an Egyptologist colleague (who gave me the 101 on hieroglyphs πŸ˜„ ). Egyptian hieroglyphic writing was an alphabet (ie, each character roughly corresponds to a sound like p, t, k). So while the hieroglyphs resemble objects, they were not read as such, at least not in the later stages. (Btw. Latin characters also developed from picture-like objects in many cases, but it's been a long time since these pictures were recognizable)
                  Thus, emojis do not resemble Egyptian hieroglyphs in my view - each emoji corresponds most closely to a word or concept, not a single letter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                  #10

                  @Kuchenschwarte "Why are emojis standardly not animated?" - a complicated question. The Unicode standard lists a code point for each emoji (and other symbols, too), as well as, roughly, its meaning (really a short name). You can see the full list below. E.g., codepoint "U+1F601" corresponds to "beaming face with smiling eyes" or 😁 .
                  You can think of the look of that emoji on your individual platform as a kind of "font" - the platforms are free to implement the look of each emoji according to their house style. This is similar to the character "A" looking different in different newspapers, platforms, or styles. In most Western platforms emojis so far are not animated. But in many widely used Chinese platforms (WeChat and especially Weibo, for example), many emojis are animated. So I guess it's a question of style. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

                  https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html

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                  • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                    @Kuchenschwarte "Why are emojis standardly not animated?" - a complicated question. The Unicode standard lists a code point for each emoji (and other symbols, too), as well as, roughly, its meaning (really a short name). You can see the full list below. E.g., codepoint "U+1F601" corresponds to "beaming face with smiling eyes" or 😁 .
                    You can think of the look of that emoji on your individual platform as a kind of "font" - the platforms are free to implement the look of each emoji according to their house style. This is similar to the character "A" looking different in different newspapers, platforms, or styles. In most Western platforms emojis so far are not animated. But in many widely used Chinese platforms (WeChat and especially Weibo, for example), many emojis are animated. So I guess it's a question of style. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

                    https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html

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                    #11

                    @skyglowberlin "Can emojis be removed from Unicode? Or are they there forever once they are in?" - As of now, once they're in, they're in. The code point in Unicode is then reserved for this symbol. This can be a problem because emojis are kind of open-ended (other than alphabets and many other symbol lists). And it's possible that some emojis turn out to be rarely used. I could imagine that eventually some platforms just stop supporting a certain emoji - but it's really useful to have an international encoding standard which is fully supported by most technology (as anyone who has programmed or written online text in the early 2000s can attest). That's why getting a new emoji approved has become so hard - we're basically creating a kind of tech debt for a potentially long time.
                    Funny story - you could try creating a post now with a Unicode character from an "empty" code point in the emoji range, in the hope that it will get assigned in a later round. I've seen such a post on the old Twitter, which later was filled with all kinds of random emojis, when you look at it in a few years. #linguistics #emojis #WorldEmojiDay

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                    • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                      It did all start with πŸ™‚ and 😞 and the start of these emoticons is widely credited to a bulletin board message by Scott Fahlmann in 1982 (where he suggested them as markers of joking or seriousness) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

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                      #12

                      @tschfflr I still miss the animated emoticons in GTalk aka Google Talk. Apart from yellowish bubble style and rectangle style emoticons, there were upright typeface style emoticons. You just typed e.g. }:-) and it tilted 90Β° to the right and its "horns" turned red.

                      https://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/05/google-talk-gadget-with-emoticons.html?m=1

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                      • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                        @skyglowberlin "Can emojis be removed from Unicode? Or are they there forever once they are in?" - As of now, once they're in, they're in. The code point in Unicode is then reserved for this symbol. This can be a problem because emojis are kind of open-ended (other than alphabets and many other symbol lists). And it's possible that some emojis turn out to be rarely used. I could imagine that eventually some platforms just stop supporting a certain emoji - but it's really useful to have an international encoding standard which is fully supported by most technology (as anyone who has programmed or written online text in the early 2000s can attest). That's why getting a new emoji approved has become so hard - we're basically creating a kind of tech debt for a potentially long time.
                        Funny story - you could try creating a post now with a Unicode character from an "empty" code point in the emoji range, in the hope that it will get assigned in a later round. I've seen such a post on the old Twitter, which later was filled with all kinds of random emojis, when you look at it in a few years. #linguistics #emojis #WorldEmojiDay

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                        #13

                        πŸ€” Are #emojis a universal language? - No, for two reasons. 1) They are not a language, as they do not show the properties that human languages have: grammatical structure and free combinatorics, enabling us to express complex thoughts. 2) They are not really universal. While many emojis are interpreted similarly all over the world (I guess it's pretty clear what one could mean by πŸ• ), some emoji meanings are closely tied to cultural assumptions (e.g., some of the gestures πŸ‘ , buildings ⛩️ , food), and others are very context-dependent and might follow different conventions in various groups, including linguistic or regional groups (e.g., πŸ™ƒ for which we found strong differences between populations in Norway/US vs. Germany/Bulgaria). #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                        • katzentratschen@mastodon.socialK katzentratschen@mastodon.social

                          @tschfflr I still miss the animated emoticons in GTalk aka Google Talk. Apart from yellowish bubble style and rectangle style emoticons, there were upright typeface style emoticons. You just typed e.g. }:-) and it tilted 90Β° to the right and its "horns" turned red.

                          https://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/05/google-talk-gadget-with-emoticons.html?m=1

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                          #14

                          @tschfflr Sooo... This was a comment, not a question. What's your favourite emoticon or emoji and why?

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                          • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                            🧐 #AMA on #emojis for #WorldEmojiDay ❗ #linguistics

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                            #15

                            @tschfflr I am often curious: which emojis are used the least often?

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                            • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                              πŸ€” Are #emojis a universal language? - No, for two reasons. 1) They are not a language, as they do not show the properties that human languages have: grammatical structure and free combinatorics, enabling us to express complex thoughts. 2) They are not really universal. While many emojis are interpreted similarly all over the world (I guess it's pretty clear what one could mean by πŸ• ), some emoji meanings are closely tied to cultural assumptions (e.g., some of the gestures πŸ‘ , buildings ⛩️ , food), and others are very context-dependent and might follow different conventions in various groups, including linguistic or regional groups (e.g., πŸ™ƒ for which we found strong differences between populations in Norway/US vs. Germany/Bulgaria). #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                              #16

                              "what are the two readings of πŸ™ƒ?" - Roughly, one group sees this emoji as a whimsical, funny alternative to the "regular" smiley πŸ™‚ , which they also read as positive ("happy, smiling"). The other group sees it as sarcastic, passive-aggressive, or uncomfortable. There are many nuances but those are the two groups. #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                              • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                "what are the two readings of πŸ™ƒ?" - Roughly, one group sees this emoji as a whimsical, funny alternative to the "regular" smiley πŸ™‚ , which they also read as positive ("happy, smiling"). The other group sees it as sarcastic, passive-aggressive, or uncomfortable. There are many nuances but those are the two groups. #emojis #WorldEmojiDay #linguistics

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                                #17

                                "which emojis are used the least often?" - Great question, and we rarely find data on this! But luckily, we studied this at least for two corpora with German users (and admittedly only for face emojis). So: Many object or symbol emojis (from the "tail end" of the emoji list) are very, very rarely used. Overall, faces and hearts are the most frequent. Among the face emojis, we compiled the full list of usages from a huge Twitter corpus (semi-public communication, 2014-2022) and a much small WhatsApp chat corpus (private or group communication). You can find the frequencies in this table linked below (and sort by frequency by clicking on the column). The least frequent face emoji in the large corpus was the "frowning face with open mouth" 😦, which most people have never seen before. Personally, I think it's pretty ambiguous and not very useful, as there are better emojis for anything it might express. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay
                                https://tscheffler.github.io/2024-Face-Emoji-Norming/ratings.html

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                                  @ricci ❀

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                                  • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                    "which emojis are used the least often?" - Great question, and we rarely find data on this! But luckily, we studied this at least for two corpora with German users (and admittedly only for face emojis). So: Many object or symbol emojis (from the "tail end" of the emoji list) are very, very rarely used. Overall, faces and hearts are the most frequent. Among the face emojis, we compiled the full list of usages from a huge Twitter corpus (semi-public communication, 2014-2022) and a much small WhatsApp chat corpus (private or group communication). You can find the frequencies in this table linked below (and sort by frequency by clicking on the column). The least frequent face emoji in the large corpus was the "frowning face with open mouth" 😦, which most people have never seen before. Personally, I think it's pretty ambiguous and not very useful, as there are better emojis for anything it might express. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay
                                    https://tscheffler.github.io/2024-Face-Emoji-Norming/ratings.html

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                                    @tschfflr what about double meanings like in πŸ†πŸ₯¦ and πŸ‘?

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                                    • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                      @Kuchenschwarte "Why are emojis standardly not animated?" - a complicated question. The Unicode standard lists a code point for each emoji (and other symbols, too), as well as, roughly, its meaning (really a short name). You can see the full list below. E.g., codepoint "U+1F601" corresponds to "beaming face with smiling eyes" or 😁 .
                                      You can think of the look of that emoji on your individual platform as a kind of "font" - the platforms are free to implement the look of each emoji according to their house style. This is similar to the character "A" looking different in different newspapers, platforms, or styles. In most Western platforms emojis so far are not animated. But in many widely used Chinese platforms (WeChat and especially Weibo, for example), many emojis are animated. So I guess it's a question of style. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay

                                      https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html

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                                      @tschfflr @skyglowberlin @Kuchenschwarte I wonder if having animated versions could be like changing fonts ?

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                                      • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                        "which emojis are used the least often?" - Great question, and we rarely find data on this! But luckily, we studied this at least for two corpora with German users (and admittedly only for face emojis). So: Many object or symbol emojis (from the "tail end" of the emoji list) are very, very rarely used. Overall, faces and hearts are the most frequent. Among the face emojis, we compiled the full list of usages from a huge Twitter corpus (semi-public communication, 2014-2022) and a much small WhatsApp chat corpus (private or group communication). You can find the frequencies in this table linked below (and sort by frequency by clicking on the column). The least frequent face emoji in the large corpus was the "frowning face with open mouth" 😦, which most people have never seen before. Personally, I think it's pretty ambiguous and not very useful, as there are better emojis for anything it might express. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay
                                        https://tscheffler.github.io/2024-Face-Emoji-Norming/ratings.html

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                                        "what about double meanings like in πŸ†πŸ₯¦ and πŸ‘?" - Ah yes, these ambiguities are very famous. In order to get a new emoji approved nowadays, it's even helpful to be able to point out additional meanings and usages that are metaphorical in this way. The Unicode consortium is wary of introducing too many new emojis, and so those that can "carry more weight" and fill many needs at once are preferred.
                                        In internet corpora the vegetable-related uses of these emojis are probably quite rare (but I must admit I haven't checked yet) - and the metaphorical meanings probably dominate. Though there are also many insider uses of emojis that aren't super widely known outside of their circle. This is comparable to other kinds of linguistic codes or innovations (e.g. in youth language) and not limited to only emojis. #WorldEmojiDay #emojis #linguistics

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                                        • tschfflr@fediscience.orgT tschfflr@fediscience.org

                                          "which emojis are used the least often?" - Great question, and we rarely find data on this! But luckily, we studied this at least for two corpora with German users (and admittedly only for face emojis). So: Many object or symbol emojis (from the "tail end" of the emoji list) are very, very rarely used. Overall, faces and hearts are the most frequent. Among the face emojis, we compiled the full list of usages from a huge Twitter corpus (semi-public communication, 2014-2022) and a much small WhatsApp chat corpus (private or group communication). You can find the frequencies in this table linked below (and sort by frequency by clicking on the column). The least frequent face emoji in the large corpus was the "frowning face with open mouth" 😦, which most people have never seen before. Personally, I think it's pretty ambiguous and not very useful, as there are better emojis for anything it might express. #emojis #linguistics #WorldEmojiDay
                                          https://tscheffler.github.io/2024-Face-Emoji-Norming/ratings.html

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                                          lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net
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                                          @tschfflr Can I say that in the olden days of ye twitter there was an account featuring the least used emojis? And of course there were people trying to upvote their favourites. I admit I always supported the cable car emoji (whimsical )

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