"It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

[pavlovscat@mastodonapp.uk]

@ptribble or…we really don’t like your ad blockers.

[kichae@wanderingadventure.party]

OddOpinions5 Tgere are 3 browser engines. Building for the one that is destroying the open web doesn’t make you a good developer. It just makes you a lazy authoritarian bootlicker.

Like, the one you’re calling a niche option here is almost certainly Firefox. If you’re butching about people using Firefox, you’re paart of the problem and you should go seal yourself away until you understand that.

[steve@feltmarker.uk]

@ozzelot @rysiek @ptribble also, no and bye

[squaloujenkins@fosstodon.org]

@failedLyndonLaRouchite @unixwitch @ptribble when it isn't it's because the site does not conform to standard.

Now imagine if a mobile device company deciding to sell a device with a plug that does not conform to standards, nobody would buy it ...would they ? Oh wait

[claralistensprechen3rd@friendica.myportal.social]

@ozzelot @ptribble Anytime I get a message like that, I cease promoting or quoting that site on here because THEY should pay ME for promoting them. That's part and parcel why I don't post YouTube links as a rule--my use of ad blockers, they sternly tell me, is against their Terms of Service as if I'm a client when I'm not. Fork that snit.

[the_wub@mastodon.social]

@ptribble So who is going to write a browser extension that automatically changes "unsupported browser" messages to an "unsupported website" message?

The browser extension to also presents a button that allows the user to permanently block that website itself and also block it from appearing in search engine results.

And a second button lets the browser user send an auto generated complaint email to the website maintainer in the style of Bowerick Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged.

[dirkhh@hachyderm.io]

@ozzelot
I consider this a useful filter for websites I decline to interact with. And I don't think I'm missing anything by doing so..

@ptribble

[failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to]

@kichae

FireFox is what, 3% or so of users ?

it is a niche, and it really doesn't matter what you think, the world doesn't do what you want
and also telling people to seal themselves off, do you even hear yourself talk or you dont care ?

[raven667@hachyderm.io]

@unixwitch @failedLyndonLaRouchite @ptribble I build internal web apps and stick to the standards (as documented by Mozilla) but not all browsers have even support. *Most* things work OK, but I've had trouble with WebKit just not respectiing standard CSS (display: none on a disabled element of an option list) leading to the need for workarounds, and I can't imagine cut-down browsers like Dillo actually working if you use standards created in the last 10y.

If you say websites should stick to standardized behavior then I'm with you, if you say that semantic tagging is better than a mess of sic/span with massive amounts of inlined style and aria attributes I'm there, but if you say that the standards can't be used in practice because some personal volunteer project used by less than a percent of people doesn't have the resources to implement them, then I say "no", choosing to use an incomplete browser can lead to broken sites

[ptribble@mastodon.social]

@dirkhh @ozzelot Unfortunately, if the broken website is a bank or pension or utility provider then your choices of interaction are fairly limited.

[ptribble@mastodon.social]

@the_wub I like the idea of channeling Wowbagger! I'm not generally a fan of browser extensions (I just have an adblocker) but I would definitely go for that one.

[ewhac@mastodon.social]

@ptribble In my darker moments, I sometimes speculate that the "connection security" scripts that have proliferated ostensibly to block AI scrapers are actually there to get people to re-enable Javascript and cookies again.