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  • ptribble@mastodon.socialP ptribble@mastodon.social

    "It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

    No, sorry, what you meant to say was:

    "It looks like we've written an unsupported website"

    jackpearse@nrw.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #18

    @ptribble

    You should not use browsers at all.

    BACK TO BINARY

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    • ptribble@mastodon.socialP ptribble@mastodon.social

      "It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

      No, sorry, what you meant to say was:

      "It looks like we've written an unsupported website"

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      #19

      @ptribble ... the browser would probably simply have worked just fine, if there had not been a braindead browser detection script preventing that. 🤯

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      • justinas@soc.dudenas.ltJ justinas@soc.dudenas.lt

        @ozzelot conceptually every website is an ad, even if merely for your opinion

        ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @justinas the best adblocker is pulling your router

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        • ptribble@mastodon.socialP ptribble@mastodon.social

          "It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

          No, sorry, what you meant to say was:

          "It looks like we've written an unsupported website"

          apzpins@some.apz.fiA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #21

          @ptribble "We recommend that you use a mainstream browser"

          Me, staring at the screen in disbelief while using FireFox.

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          • ptribble@mastodon.socialP ptribble@mastodon.social

            "It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

            No, sorry, what you meant to say was:

            "It looks like we've written an unsupported website"

            pavlovscat@mastodonapp.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #22

            @ptribble or…we really don’t like your ad blockers.

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            • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

              @Colman @ptribble

              NO

              "I choose to use an odd browser that no one else uses and I expect everyone to cater to my desires"

              kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #23

              OddOpinions5 Tgere are 3 browser engines. Building for the one that is destroying the open web doesn’t make you a good developer. It just makes you a lazy authoritarian bootlicker.

              Like, the one you’re calling a niche option here is almost certainly Firefox. If you’re butching about people using Firefox, you’re paart of the problem and you should go seal yourself away until you understand that.

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              • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                @ptribble
                "Please disable your adblocker to view our website"
                So... your website is an ad?

                steve@feltmarker.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #24

                @ozzelot @rysiek @ptribble also, no and bye

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                • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                  @unixwitch @ptribble

                  In theory, this is true

                  In practice it isn't

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                  #25

                  @failedLyndonLaRouchite @unixwitch @ptribble when it isn't it's because the site does not conform to standard.

                  Now imagine if a mobile device company deciding to sell a device with a plug that does not conform to standards, nobody would buy it ...would they ? Oh wait

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                  • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                    @ptribble
                    "Please disable your adblocker to view our website"
                    So... your website is an ad?

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                    #26
                    @ozzelot @ptribble Anytime I get a message like that, I cease promoting or quoting that site on here because THEY should pay ME for promoting them. That's part and parcel why I don't post YouTube links as a rule--my use of ad blockers, they sternly tell me, is against their Terms of Service as if I'm a client when I'm not. Fork that snit.
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                    • ptribble@mastodon.socialP ptribble@mastodon.social

                      "It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

                      No, sorry, what you meant to say was:

                      "It looks like we've written an unsupported website"

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                      #27

                      @ptribble So who is going to write a browser extension that automatically changes "unsupported browser" messages to an "unsupported website" message?

                      The browser extension to also presents a button that allows the user to permanently block that website itself and also block it from appearing in search engine results.

                      And a second button lets the browser user send an auto generated complaint email to the website maintainer in the style of Bowerick Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged.

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                      • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                        @ptribble
                        "Please disable your adblocker to view our website"
                        So... your website is an ad?

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                        #28

                        @ozzelot
                        I consider this a useful filter for websites I decline to interact with. And I don't think I'm missing anything by doing so..

                        @ptribble

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                        • kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK kichae@wanderingadventure.party

                          OddOpinions5 Tgere are 3 browser engines. Building for the one that is destroying the open web doesn’t make you a good developer. It just makes you a lazy authoritarian bootlicker.

                          Like, the one you’re calling a niche option here is almost certainly Firefox. If you’re butching about people using Firefox, you’re paart of the problem and you should go seal yourself away until you understand that.

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                          #29

                          @kichae

                          FireFox is what, 3% or so of users ?

                          it is a niche, and it really doesn't matter what you think, the world doesn't do what you want
                          and also telling people to seal themselves off, do you even hear yourself talk or you dont care ?

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                          • unixwitch@social.tchncs.deU unixwitch@social.tchncs.de

                            @failedLyndonLaRouchite @ptribble

                            There are standards. Just build standard conforming web sites and you don't need to bother at all, which type of browser people use.

                            https://validator.w3.org/

                            #W3Ccompliant #html #w3c #AnyBrowserWelcome

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                            #30

                            @unixwitch @failedLyndonLaRouchite @ptribble I build internal web apps and stick to the standards (as documented by Mozilla) but not all browsers have even support. *Most* things work OK, but I've had trouble with WebKit just not respectiing standard CSS (display: none on a disabled element of an option list) leading to the need for workarounds, and I can't imagine cut-down browsers like Dillo actually working if you use standards created in the last 10y.

                            If you say websites should stick to standardized behavior then I'm with you, if you say that semantic tagging is better than a mess of sic/span with massive amounts of inlined style and aria attributes I'm there, but if you say that the standards can't be used in practice because some personal volunteer project used by less than a percent of people doesn't have the resources to implement them, then I say "no", choosing to use an incomplete browser can lead to broken sites

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                            • dirkhh@hachyderm.ioD dirkhh@hachyderm.io

                              @ozzelot
                              I consider this a useful filter for websites I decline to interact with. And I don't think I'm missing anything by doing so..

                              @ptribble

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                              #31

                              @dirkhh @ozzelot Unfortunately, if the broken website is a bank or pension or utility provider then your choices of interaction are fairly limited.

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                              • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                                @ptribble So who is going to write a browser extension that automatically changes "unsupported browser" messages to an "unsupported website" message?

                                The browser extension to also presents a button that allows the user to permanently block that website itself and also block it from appearing in search engine results.

                                And a second button lets the browser user send an auto generated complaint email to the website maintainer in the style of Bowerick Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged.

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                                #32

                                @the_wub I like the idea of channeling Wowbagger! I'm not generally a fan of browser extensions (I just have an adblocker) but I would definitely go for that one.

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                                • ptribble@mastodon.socialP ptribble@mastodon.social

                                  "It looks like you're using an unsupported browser"

                                  No, sorry, what you meant to say was:

                                  "It looks like we've written an unsupported website"

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                                  #33

                                  @ptribble In my darker moments, I sometimes speculate that the "connection security" scripts that have proliferated ostensibly to block AI scrapers are actually there to get people to re-enable Javascript and cookies again.

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