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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Right then, this post outlines my options

    1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

    2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

    Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

    https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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    #122

    @jon How about 3) Go back and start over?

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Right then, this post outlines my options

      1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

      2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

      Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

      https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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      #123

      @jon My first instinct was the train-replament-bus, as all train companies still claim busses are still trains when it comes to compensation rights.

      But: I'd say option two as well as it is doable. And as even with a delay you will still follow the original challenge (and get the fastest time simply by being the first).

      Also it makes for better TV and a cleaner narrative!

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        @sebwilken Ha. That's the spirit.

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        #124

        @jon @sebwilken 💪🏾🍀🍀🍀

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        • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

          @jon My first instinct was the train-replament-bus, as all train companies still claim busses are still trains when it comes to compensation rights.

          But: I'd say option two as well as it is doable. And as even with a delay you will still follow the original challenge (and get the fastest time simply by being the first).

          Also it makes for better TV and a cleaner narrative!

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          #125

          @Pepijn The only thing I cannot estimate: what if the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* a bus? 🤨

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?

            It currently looks like it will be a train...

            @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm wdyt?

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            #126

            @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?

              It currently looks like it will be a train...

              @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm wdyt?

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              #127

              @jon In my corner of the Norrtåg network they use different rolling stock, but successive cancellations is not something I’ve seen.

              They are also amazing at sorting replacement buses that work, FWIW.

              @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                @Pepijn The only thing I cannot estimate: what if the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* a bus? 🤨

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                #128

                @jon But maybe then it's destiny. Part of the adventure/ narrative.

                In essence I don't think the attempt becomes invalid when you take a rail replacement bus. It at best will have a small asterisk.

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                • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                  @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).

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                  #129

                  @tml @jon Yeah, this is definitely a bad sign

                  @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom

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                  • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                    @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).

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                    #130

                    @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Out of interest, were there many other passengers to Haparanda on the train? Are they also continuing to Boden and beyond, Kiruna, Luleå, or Umeå?

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                    • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                      @jon In my corner of the Norrtåg network they use different rolling stock, but successive cancellations is not something I’ve seen.

                      They are also amazing at sorting replacement buses that work, FWIW.

                      @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom

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                      #131

                      @stefanlindbohm @jon @tml @Jonas_Bostrom Unfortunately they do it all the time on the Haparanda line. Something deeply wrong there.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?

                        It currently looks like it will be a train...

                        @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm wdyt?

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                        #132

                        @jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm i feel for you, swedish rail is a big cluster f*ck… be prepare to change your plans 😖 and good luck!!

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                        • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                          @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Out of interest, were there many other passengers to Haparanda on the train? Are they also continuing to Boden and beyond, Kiruna, Luleå, or Umeå?

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                          #133

                          @tml @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm There were a dozen or so on the cross border section

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                          • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                            @tml @jon Yeah, this is definitely a bad sign

                            @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom

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                            #134

                            @tml @jon 7183 ends in Luleå, turns to 7184 back to Haparanda and becomes 7185. So it’s the same physical trainset. If there’s an issue with the rolling stock then both would be affected.

                            @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Right then, this post outlines my options

                              1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

                              2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

                              Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

                              https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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                              #135

                              @jon option 2 but if train is replaced by a bus without you knowing beforhand I'll say that's an acceptable exception.
                              Oh and you coule add a malus point system if any remplacement bus was taken at some point making taking bus bad option for racing but not invalidite the
                              whole trip for record.

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Right then, this post outlines my options

                                1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

                                2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

                                Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

                                https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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                                #136

                                @jon Changing rules is a slippery slope 😉

                                Go for option 2 #YOLO

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                                • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

                                  @jon Option 2! It‘s a record attempt after all, so give us some thrill 🙂

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                                  #137

                                  @sebwilken @jon Exactly!

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                                  • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

                                    @stefanlindbohm @jon @tml @Jonas_Bostrom Unfortunately they do it all the time on the Haparanda line. Something deeply wrong there.

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                                    #138

                                    @sebwilken Might be the different rolling stock then. And the fact that they have a single trainset running back and forth. Lots more sensitive.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?

                                      It currently looks like it will be a train...

                                      @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm wdyt?

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                                      #139

                                      So I just called Norrtåg

                                      There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

                                      So how bad is this power line failure?

                                      @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        So I just called Norrtåg

                                        There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

                                        So how bad is this power line failure?

                                        @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

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                                        #140

                                        @jon Can be a press of a button or a full replacement of equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                          @jon Can be a press of a button or a full replacement of equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                                          #141

                                          @stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!

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