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  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

    @HennaVirkkunen

    So, just to confirm: you observed the US become dominated by billionaires and exploitative companies who are throwing trillions or dollars at technology that provides marginal (at best) benefits to society and entrenches their power, and your reaction was 'the EU should do that too!'?

    For comparison, the amount that you're burning on this is more than twice as much as you'd need for the EU to build a competitive range of memory-safe sovereign CPUs from microcontroller up to server class devices and port most open-source software to run on them. This would reduce the attack surface for all EU infrastructure significantly and provide strong sovereignty guarantees.

    Can you share how you did a cost-benefit calculation and decided that chasing a big-tech fad was the best return on investment for the bloc?

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    failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #184

    @david_chisnall @HennaVirkkunen

    on the other hand, 30 billion , over a few years, for capex, is not that much money for the EU
    right ?

    and IF you accept that machine learning is AI, THEN alpha fold is a clear example of great benefit to society

    also, I think it is true that for the last 200 years, *every new promising tech, canals, railroads, etc, has seen a huge boom bust in CAPEX

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    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

      Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

      I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

      This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

      https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

      uint8_t@chaos.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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      uint8_t@chaos.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #185

      @HennaVirkkunen can we at least wait with GPU shopping until the bubble bursts? and can you start with building PV+storage+grid *first* for some future datacenters instead of more fossil gas like the US is doing it

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      • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

        Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

        I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

        This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

        https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

        krolli53@digitalcourage.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        krolli53@digitalcourage.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #186

        @HennaVirkkunen please stop this madness.

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        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

          Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

          I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

          This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

          https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

          matildalove@wetdry.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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          matildalove@wetdry.world
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #187

          @HennaVirkkunen kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves

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          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

            Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

            I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

            This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

            https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

            wizbean@tech.lgbtW This user is from outside of this forum
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            wizbean@tech.lgbt
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #188

            @HennaVirkkunen
            @digitaleu
            @EUCommission

            What are our options as member countries and as citizens to prevent more of these datacenters from being built?

            Can we opt out of having our data and identities processed by datacenters?

            What is the commission and European parliament doing to protect us from the harmful effects of datacenters, including:

            • Air pollution, associated with illness and climate change;
            • Water pollution and heat dumping;
            • Noise pollution and quakes;
            • Using improportonate amounts of electricity from the common power grid and driving up electricity prices for everyone;
            • Supplementing their electricity with polluting diesel and fossil gas powered generators;
            • Using improportonate volumes of municipal water, especially during heat waves in which our governments are restricting water for personal use?

            Thank you and have a nice day.

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            • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

              Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

              I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

              This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

              https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

              cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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              cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #189

              @HennaVirkkunen you have got to be fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                zeezee@mastodon.nl
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #190

                @HennaVirkkunen

                Stop following the hype built on lies.
                Stop feeding trees, water and electricity the natural world to an economic lie thats going to crash.

                Take care of the people and planet and their needs instead of the bigtech bros.

                It isnt very hard to see the road you are taking is going nowhere.

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                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                  Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                  I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                  This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                  https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                  ariasuni@gts.lutaines.euA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  ariasuni@gts.lutaines.eu
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #191

                  @HennaVirkkunen
                  Imagine if that kind of money was used to stop climate change, not worsen it.

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                  • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                    Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                    I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                    This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                    https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                    airwhale@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    airwhale@beige.party
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #192

                    @HennaVirkkunen

                    Right, so we don't have enough water to cool our existing nuclear power plants or irrigate fields that produce our food, so I'm sure this is a brilliant idea!

                    Just make sure to put them somewhere out of reach from the fires. (We are probably running out of water to fight those effectively too, but as long as we can create AI slop, we'll be fine?)

                    Please reconsider, @HennaVirkkunen - the value really isn't there.

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                    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                      Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                      I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                      This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                      https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                      tamewhale@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                      tamewhale@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                      tamewhale@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #193

                      @HennaVirkkunen I am vaguely interested if you believe the things you are doing are not catastrophic for the planet, humanity and culture or if you think the repercussions won't affect you and you'll be rich and dead by the time the oceans boil

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                      • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                        @david_chisnall @HennaVirkkunen

                        on the other hand, 30 billion , over a few years, for capex, is not that much money for the EU
                        right ?

                        and IF you accept that machine learning is AI, THEN alpha fold is a clear example of great benefit to society

                        also, I think it is true that for the last 200 years, *every new promising tech, canals, railroads, etc, has seen a huge boom bust in CAPEX

                        david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #194

                        @failedLyndonLaRouchite @HennaVirkkunen

                        It's not a huge amount in comparison to the total budget, it's an enormous amount in comparison to most other individual projects that the EU is investing in.

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                        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                          Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                          I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                          This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                          https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                          lucydev@wetdry.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          lucydev@wetdry.world
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #195

                          @HennaVirkkunen yaaaay now european impoverished neighborhoods can live next to shitty ass datacenters just like american ones!

                          Honestly, it's kinda sad to see the EU having become a shell of it's former self, shitting on human rights, forcing citizens into poverty, forcing small and medium sized businesses (especially in the starting stage) to go insolvent and close for the benefit of large US tech corporations, and now pledging to make living conditions around these planned datacenters worse for the people living there, putting more strain on the electricity grid for overhyped autocorrect instead of,,,yk,,,ACs so your citizens don't fucking die beneath your feet, but it's all fine as long as the shareholder value is good enough, right?

                          Which lobby group bribed y'all this time?

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                          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                            Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                            I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                            This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                            https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                            blupblup24@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            blupblup24@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #196

                            @HennaVirkkunen I also agree with a lot of the criticisms other people have made.
                            I am very much against Europe becoming an "AI continent" for a lot of reasons and will fight against all AI-datacenter projects near me in Austria.
                            Be aware that your plan is not something we as the general public approve of!

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                            • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                              Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                              I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                              This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                              https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                              teflontrout@beige.party
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #197

                              @HennaVirkkunen How much were you paid to do this? I am seriously asking because we know how this works. Was it Altman himself, or a cutout? A different moron?

                              And speaking of morons, you'd have to be one to think this is a good idea, that, or wilfully blind.

                              I don't know anything about you but as a person with wealth in a position of power I expect you're either out of your depth and too much of an asshole to admit it, or a lying monster.

                              I'd put good money on you being both.

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                              • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                                khaleer@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #198

                                @HennaVirkkunen key to strengthening your sovereignty is to stop falling for American bullshit, and as you present it there, you finished none of your homework.

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                                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                  Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                  I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                  This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                  https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

                                  canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  canleaf@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #199

                                  @HennaVirkkunen y'alll are out of the mind.

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                                  • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    The AI Gigafactories call is now open.

                                    Today, we launched a call for tenders to establish up to 7 AI Gigafactories across Europe, boosting Europe’s computing capacity and unlocking more than €30 billion in investment.

                                    I am pleased to see Member States, industry, and the Commission coming together to build these facilities, which are key to strengthening our technological sovereignty.

                                    This is a milestone for Europe in becoming an AI Continent.

                                    https://link.europa.eu/qGDhv3

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                                    canleaf@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #200

                                    @HennaVirkkunen throwing money at a "technology" which sucks our water and jobs is a bad idea.

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                                    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                      @HennaVirkkunen This is just about the worst idea imaginable. Some would compare it to tulipmania on horse steroids - but at least tulips are real & people like them.

                                      Please come to your senses, quickly.

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                                      jwcph@helvede.net
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                                      #201

                                      @HennaVirkkunen - and just in case it's unclear what I am talking about, even if AI was useful, which it's not, and safe, which it's not, and fair, which it's not, and in line with the planet's environmental needs, which it's not, and legal, which is extremely debatable: https://www.somo.nl/eus-data-centre-expansion-will-fast-track-profits-and-power-for-us-big-tech-and-investors/

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