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  • uair@autistics.lifeU This user is from outside of this forum
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    #55

    @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

    They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.

    Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."

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    • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

      @grumble209 @jannem @randahl So what new acts and new backing band will want to step into that clusterfuck right now? They will be the ones supporting genocide.

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      #56

      @HollieK72 @grumble209 @jannem @randahl people who are desperate for money so they can eat and pay the roof over their heads

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      • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

        @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

        They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.

        Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."

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        #57

        @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

        Kudos for "meatspace".

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        • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

          @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

          And let's recall: Zionism never had a plan that was not genocide.

          Building an ethnostate where other people live == genocide.

          How was this smoothed over for 70 years?

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          #58

          @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague when people say that Israel has a right to exist, what they're actually saying and maybe not realizing is that Israel only exists as an Apartheid state, and could not exist without it. Supporting Israel means supporting this genocide and that's how we need to call that out. Not that they support Israel, or the Jewish faith and ethnicity, but genocide and only genocide.

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          • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

            @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @jannem @grumble209 @randahl Lol, and this is without putting the broken replies bit in! 🤣

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            #59

            @HollieK72 @jannem @grumble209 @randahl 😉😂

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            • verymetalsite@mastodon.socialV verymetalsite@mastodon.social

              @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

              Kudos for "meatspace".

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              #60

              @verymetalsite @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

              Credit Neil Stephensen. It's from "Snow Crash", which I never finished. It's his alternative to "The Metaverse".

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              • manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.socialM manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.social

                @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague when people say that Israel has a right to exist, what they're actually saying and maybe not realizing is that Israel only exists as an Apartheid state, and could not exist without it. Supporting Israel means supporting this genocide and that's how we need to call that out. Not that they support Israel, or the Jewish faith and ethnicity, but genocide and only genocide.

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                #61

                @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

                androcat@toot.catA manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.socialM benroyce@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Own goal of the century:

                  British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                  Result:

                  American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                  Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                  Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                  Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                  The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                  #62

                  @randahl A classic example of the "Streisand effect".

                  Mackelmore has put Gaza, and the genocide that is taking place there back in the public eye.

                  If he had been ignored then only those attending the concerts would have heard his point of view.

                  Now the whole world has been reminded of the government of Israel's attempts to eradicated the Palestinian people.

                  #sheeran #streisandeffect

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                  • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                    @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                    #63

                    @Thatfeministwoman

                    Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

                    And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

                    What part of that is hard to understand?

                    @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                    • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                      @verymetalsite @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                      Credit Neil Stephensen. It's from "Snow Crash", which I never finished. It's his alternative to "The Metaverse".

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                      #64

                      @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                      Finished it, forgot this particular word. Still wondering why it has not been adapted for screen, that is one hell of an original script right there.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CffLFuxA2lo

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                      • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                        @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                        #65

                        @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague what Palestinian state? I wasn't aware they had one. Israel dictates everything that they can and can't do and they change that up all the time. There is no two state. It's only Israel and the forever shrinking Israeli occupied apartheid state.

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                        • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                          @Thatfeministwoman

                          Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

                          And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

                          What part of that is hard to understand?

                          @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                          #66

                          @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague this same problem is with Kosovo and Serbia but both deserve their own states. I still think that there are some people there that don't support taking more spaces and then there are those who are so loud and hateful who get all the attention. They should had stayed with the spaces that British gave them instead of getting greedy. And If it's to be believed that why they do this (take more spaces) they should have

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                          • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

                            @grumble209 @randahl
                            A power move would be for the musicians to say that okay, we're forced to play so we play.

                            And then perform exactly as well as you would expect when you're forced against your will by the lead act and their lawyers. While making clear to the audience they're there against their will.

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                            #67

                            @jannem @grumble209 @randahl A better one would be for the musicians who left Sheeran's tour to sue the promoters, stadium owners etc for "constructive dismissal" by removing their right to free speech.

                            I believe that the right to free speech is a big thing in the US.

                            That would put this disgraceful situation and the genocide in Gaza back in the spotlight at repeated intervals as the court cases progressed.

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                            • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                              @Thatfeministwoman

                              Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

                              And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

                              What part of that is hard to understand?

                              @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                              #68

                              @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague build a wall instead k*lling them or taking their lands. Or maybe they could have had 50% of the land and Palestine the other 50? I don't know If that's just a dream

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                              • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                                @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                                #69

                                @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                thank you

                                israel has a right to exist

                                palestine has a right to exist

                                the *only* way forward is a two state solution

                                but neither seems capable of working that out

                                israelis and palestinians were murdering each other long before i was born, and probably long after i'm dead

                                unless...

                                what?

                                i feel the two state solution has to be imposed on them by the world

                                but that is a *huge* ask

                                so we are stuck

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                                • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                                  @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                  They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.

                                  Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."

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                                  #70

                                  @Uair it’s heckin complicated. A lot of non-Jewish people don’t understand that Israel is separate from Judaism. I’ve had to explain to very good pals that I didn’t have any connection to or sympathy for Israel, that my Judaism was entirely disconnected from Israel. That branding campaign has been extremely successful and problematic because they aren’t one & the same. @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                                  • manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.socialM manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.social

                                    @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague what Palestinian state? I wasn't aware they had one. Israel dictates everything that they can and can't do and they change that up all the time. There is no two state. It's only Israel and the forever shrinking Israeli occupied apartheid state.

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                                    #71

                                    @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague well they should have two states. I'm just saying that I support both. I'm not one of those people who want jews and israeli folk to go away from there and go "back" to europe or some other countries. I understand why Israel state exists. It's a good safe haven for them just in case another jewish genocide starts

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Own goal of the century:

                                      British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                                      Result:

                                      American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                                      Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                                      Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                                      Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                                      The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                                      #72

                                      Mackelmore did not "condemn genocide",

                                      he did a nazi salute while wearing a false big nose (jewish caricature)

                                      Photos here (text in French)
                                      https://piaille.fr/@scudery/117274599694126629

                                      @Sylvhem

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                        thank you

                                        israel has a right to exist

                                        palestine has a right to exist

                                        the *only* way forward is a two state solution

                                        but neither seems capable of working that out

                                        israelis and palestinians were murdering each other long before i was born, and probably long after i'm dead

                                        unless...

                                        what?

                                        i feel the two state solution has to be imposed on them by the world

                                        but that is a *huge* ask

                                        so we are stuck

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                                        #73

                                        @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm saying this cause my parents are from Kosovo (Kosovo albanians) so I kind of can relate to this never ending problem (it's not me it's you and the other one says the same) and 30 f*cking years and still nothing has changed and parents continuing the cycle of teaching their children to hate the "Enemy" neighbor. I'm tired of the cycle of hate. Nothing will change If we continue hating each other

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                          yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world

                                          so we talk about it and we oppose it

                                          we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions

                                          we do both

                                          and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics

                                          except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars

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                                          #74

                                          @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                          Are these photos of Macklemore not antisemitic ?
                                          (text in French)

                                          https://piaille.fr/@scudery/117274599694126629

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