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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @randahl @FrancoisPrague

    #Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years

    also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions

    and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/

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    #46

    @benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.

    She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @randahl @FrancoisPrague

      #Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years

      also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions

      and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference

      https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/

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      #47

      @benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague I don't know anything about Ed Sheeran that I haven't learned this week. He can just go fuck himself. Pink, on the other hand, is someone I've known and respected for years. Her involvement in, and statements about this, really disappoint me.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        @benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.

        She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.

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        #48

        @randahl @benroyce > unfortunate

        Not to mention, antisemitic (all Jews are not complicit in genocide and saying so, as Israel does and as Pink, and other Zionists do, is antisemitic.)

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        • nomenloony@nomenloony.comN nomenloony@nomenloony.com

          @randahl well that went well for him didn't it? Sorry I can't boycott him as I've always thought his music was insipid detritus.

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          #49

          @nomenloony @randahl Yes, I too have studiously boycotted him from Day 1.

          Except when his music is playing on a radio that I have no control over in a space I have to be in.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            @benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.

            She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.

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            #50

            @randahl

            the sickest thing:

            when israel defenders call criticizing israel attacking jews

            and antisemitic bigots say the problem of what israel is doing is jews

            they're both misdirecting the same way. away from israel and towards jews

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            • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

              @jannem @grumble209 @randahl Yeah, I know, I did read your reply. I was replying to the person that replied to you about new acts and a new backing group.

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              #51

              @HollieK72 @jannem @grumble209 @randahl I'm just replying after reading your reply to the person that replied to the person who wrote this and then replied and yeah. Whew!

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              • manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.socialM manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.social

                @HollieK72 @jannem @grumble209 @randahl I'm just replying after reading your reply to the person that replied to the person who wrote this and then replied and yeah. Whew!

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                #52

                @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @jannem @grumble209 @randahl Lol, and this is without putting the broken replies bit in! 🤣

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  @randahl @paulk Sheeran’s statement on this was awful - a total cop out, doubling down on his desire to remain apolitical. Just terrible all around, considering we are dealing with a genocide.

                  Please look up statements by the bands that dropped out - they restored my faith in humanity.

                  Fuck Sheeran forever and ever (and I never say the F word, but damn)

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                  #53

                  @_elena @randahl @paulk Aaron Rowe had the best one, and I've never heard his music before. That's gonna change.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Own goal of the century:

                    British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                    Result:

                    American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                    Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                    Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                    Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                    The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                    #54

                    @randahl I didn't know they could do that. There's not a contract?

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                      #55

                      @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                      They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.

                      Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."

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                      • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

                        @grumble209 @jannem @randahl So what new acts and new backing band will want to step into that clusterfuck right now? They will be the ones supporting genocide.

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                        #56

                        @HollieK72 @grumble209 @jannem @randahl people who are desperate for money so they can eat and pay the roof over their heads

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                        • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                          @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                          They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.

                          Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."

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                          #57

                          @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                          Kudos for "meatspace".

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                          • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                            @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                            And let's recall: Zionism never had a plan that was not genocide.

                            Building an ethnostate where other people live == genocide.

                            How was this smoothed over for 70 years?

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                            #58

                            @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague when people say that Israel has a right to exist, what they're actually saying and maybe not realizing is that Israel only exists as an Apartheid state, and could not exist without it. Supporting Israel means supporting this genocide and that's how we need to call that out. Not that they support Israel, or the Jewish faith and ethnicity, but genocide and only genocide.

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                            • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

                              @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @jannem @grumble209 @randahl Lol, and this is without putting the broken replies bit in! 🤣

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                              #59

                              @HollieK72 @jannem @grumble209 @randahl 😉😂

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                              • verymetalsite@mastodon.socialV verymetalsite@mastodon.social

                                @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                Kudos for "meatspace".

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                                #60

                                @verymetalsite @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                Credit Neil Stephensen. It's from "Snow Crash", which I never finished. It's his alternative to "The Metaverse".

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                                • manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.socialM manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.social

                                  @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague when people say that Israel has a right to exist, what they're actually saying and maybe not realizing is that Israel only exists as an Apartheid state, and could not exist without it. Supporting Israel means supporting this genocide and that's how we need to call that out. Not that they support Israel, or the Jewish faith and ethnicity, but genocide and only genocide.

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                                  #61

                                  @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Own goal of the century:

                                    British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                                    Result:

                                    American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                                    Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                                    Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                                    Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                                    The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                                    #62

                                    @randahl A classic example of the "Streisand effect".

                                    Mackelmore has put Gaza, and the genocide that is taking place there back in the public eye.

                                    If he had been ignored then only those attending the concerts would have heard his point of view.

                                    Now the whole world has been reminded of the government of Israel's attempts to eradicated the Palestinian people.

                                    #sheeran #streisandeffect

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                                    • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                                      @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                                      #63

                                      @Thatfeministwoman

                                      Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

                                      And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

                                      What part of that is hard to understand?

                                      @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                                      • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                                        @verymetalsite @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                        Credit Neil Stephensen. It's from "Snow Crash", which I never finished. It's his alternative to "The Metaverse".

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                                        #64

                                        @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                        Finished it, forgot this particular word. Still wondering why it has not been adapted for screen, that is one hell of an original script right there.

                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CffLFuxA2lo

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                                        • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                                          @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                                          #65

                                          @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague what Palestinian state? I wasn't aware they had one. Israel dictates everything that they can and can't do and they change that up all the time. There is no two state. It's only Israel and the forever shrinking Israeli occupied apartheid state.

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