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  3. For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose.

For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose.

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  • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

    For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

    ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

    This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

    codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
    codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @joeress this was a thought that popped into my head while listening to @latenightlinux

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    • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

      For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

      ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

      This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

      deadguy@rebel.arD This user is from outside of this forum
      deadguy@rebel.arD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @codemonkeymike @cybercirujas represent

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      • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

        For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

        ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

        This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

        jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @codemonkeymike Damn right!

        A friend asked me for help with their laptop, the manufacturer's site told me, when inquiring about the exact model, straight up TO BUY ANOTHER.

        An 8GB RAM Ryzen 5!

        The cherry on top is that, after installing Linux, fwupd worked flawlessly and updated the firmware right from the manufacturer!

        The laptop is fully compatible with latest EVERYTHING and they don't even advertise it.

        It's foolish and wildly anti-ecological. Please bring those machines to good use.

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        • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

          For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

          ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

          This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

          bhasic@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
          bhasic@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @codemonkeymike I installed OpenSUSE Leap with KDE Plasma on old HP Elitebook Core 2 laptop. It's almost 20 years old. Works really fast without any problems.

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          • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

            For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

            ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

            This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

            jigmedatse@social.openpsychology.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jigmedatse@social.openpsychology.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org I've got a modern Linux on a Pentium III laptop. It's not great, but if I'm just wanting to write on it, or code on it, certainly a useful device. If the battery was good, it would basically be very nice option for me. Sadly, I get about 15 minutes out of the battery, and replacements are more than the machine is worth.

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            • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

              For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

              ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

              This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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              #7

              @codemonkeymike I need to learn about this

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              • bhasic@mastodon.socialB bhasic@mastodon.social

                @codemonkeymike I installed OpenSUSE Leap with KDE Plasma on old HP Elitebook Core 2 laptop. It's almost 20 years old. Works really fast without any problems.

                cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @bhasic @codemonkeymike SU7300 is oldest machine in my homelab. Any distro w XFCE has been solid on it: Mint, MX. Manjaro. Also Q4OS is solid.

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                • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                  For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                  ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                  This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                  thegardendude@regenerate.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #9

                  @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

                  codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC metamere@genart.socialM fourmiune@mastodon.worldF wmd@chaos.socialW desantis@mastodon.bida.imD 7 Replies Last reply
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                  • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                    For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                    ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                    This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                    sylkykat@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @codemonkeymike Switching to #Ubuntu has given my laptop years of further service. My laptop wouldn't have been able to run Windows 11, and I wanted out of the Windows mess anyway.

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                    • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                      For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                      ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                      This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                      vwestlife@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @codemonkeymike Older versions of Windows and Mac OS install on them anyway, too. (I'm typing this from a computer running Windows XP.)

                      purple@nya.socialP tschenkel@mathstodon.xyzT anatudor@mastodon.socialA 3 Replies Last reply
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                      • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

                        @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

                        codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @thegardendude I put one together just for this purpose. Or something more mainstream like Linux mint.

                        https://nixbookos.org/

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                        • vwestlife@mastodon.socialV vwestlife@mastodon.social

                          @codemonkeymike Older versions of Windows and Mac OS install on them anyway, too. (I'm typing this from a computer running Windows XP.)

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                          #13
                          @vwestlife@mastodon.social @codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org brave to bring it on the internet 😕

                          (yes, old crap is still in the wild)
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                          • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                            For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                            ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                            This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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                            #14

                            @codemonkeymike

                            Zustimmung.

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                            • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                              For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                              ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                              This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                              f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #15

                              @codemonkeymike

                              Exactly.

                              My 13-y-o MacBook is exciting again.

                              And once again performing like the day I first unboxed it.

                              Because Linux/GNU.

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                              • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                                technically_good@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @codemonkeymike Yes!! I have an ASUS Vivobook from when I was in grad school ca. 2016 - would have likely gone to the Eco station if I'd tried to install Win 11 on it.

                                Instead, it is humming along juuuust fine with @pop_os_official on it. I use it to do research and write articles for my blog, plus assorted feed reading, browsing, email, all that good stuff. Even some light Steam gaming.

                                And it looks sleeker than Windows ever did!

                                #Linux #upcycle

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                                • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

                                  @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

                                  metamere@genart.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @thegardendude
                                  Coming from Windows, I found Linux Mint to make for an easy transition. If you're more used to the Mac OS, I've heard Ubuntu might be a good option (wasn't for me).

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                                  • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                    For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                    ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                    This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                                    m1rk0@social.defcon42.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @codemonkeymike My 2015 machine is still running Win11 with ease and gets all the updates without issues. Yes, i had to tweak the installation process, but there are dozens of tools for dummies out there to guide you through it.
                                    I don't want to win an argument, but please tell the full story. You are hurting only yourself.

                                    zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC 2 Replies Last reply
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                                    • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

                                      @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

                                      fourmiune@mastodon.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @thegardendude @codemonkeymike ubuntu ... xubuntu ... lubuntu ... very easy

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                                      • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                        For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                        ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                        This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                                        oz1sej@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #20

                                        @codemonkeymike Sometimes I feel like I live in a bubble. I teach kids (12-20), and by far the most of them have never even heard of Linux. It's win or mac for them - there is no third option 😞

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                                        • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                          For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                          ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                          This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                                          qccechris@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #21

                                          @codemonkeymike You know, the CUP or C.U.P. is a perfect name for the perversion of AI infested systems. Since they will be spying on you all day and all night.

                                          #Blue #MicrosoftCUP #AppleCUP

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