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So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age.

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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

    @FknHannu Nah, this Discord shit is like all of these things. Everyone will angrily shout about going somewhere else, then slink back the next week.

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    #17

    @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

    I think the main thing keeping people on platforms like Discord & Facebook are the group management features.

    Private Facebook groups offer the 'walled garden' vibe for special interests, while Discord makes it much easier to organize a community.

    There's a feature gap that I haven't seen any other products step in to fill (especially for non-technical users).

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    • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

      @JessTheUnstill Oh, that's 1000 levels of cursed.

      WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T TYPE "67"!

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      #18

      @faithisleaping @JessTheUnstill

      Typing “lol” at the end of every sentence should do the trick.

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      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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        #19

        @JessTheUnstill So if I reminisce a lot about the days of IRC, it'll infer I'm old?

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        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

          So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

          Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

          liquor_american@universeodon.comL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @JessTheUnstill lol it just keeps getting stupider

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          • lizardbill@hachyderm.ioL lizardbill@hachyderm.io

            @JessTheUnstill So just use punctuation. Got it.

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            #21

            @lizardbill @JessTheUnstill Indeed, my first thought was that all of those periods at the end of sentences that Zoomers think are grumpy and aggressive will save me! #GenX

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            • lizardbill@hachyderm.ioL lizardbill@hachyderm.io

              @JessTheUnstill So just use punctuation. Got it.

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              #22

              @lizardbill
              Oohwww... You made the joke already 🥹

              @JessTheUnstill

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              • erin@ottawa.placeE erin@ottawa.place

                @faithisleaping @JessTheUnstill

                Typing “lol” at the end of every sentence should do the trick.

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                #23

                @erin Or just make a reference to leaving a message on an answering machine.

                @JessTheUnstill

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                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                  So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                  Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                  #24

                  @JessTheUnstill Ugh. It's likely because Discord is going IPO in March.

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    @FknHannu Nah, this Discord shit is like all of these things. Everyone will angrily shout about going somewhere else, then slink back the next week.

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                    #25

                    @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

                    Yeah, because in the end there is no real alternative.

                    No one wants to go through the work of setting up their own niche foss server and then have to convince their friends to figure out.

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                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                      So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                      Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                      https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                      #26

                      @JessTheUnstill You know those IDs are going straight to ICE for American users.

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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                        #27

                        @JessTheUnstill "Verification! Call that verification?? When I were a lad we had to chop off our fingertips and send them in the post".🤔😂😂😂😂😂

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                        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                          So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                          Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                          #28

                          @JessTheUnstill

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                          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                            So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                            Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                            https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                            #29

                            @JessTheUnstill Another good reason to stop using Discord

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                            • z3r0fox@mastodon.socialZ z3r0fox@mastodon.social

                              @JessTheUnstill You know those IDs are going straight to ICE for American users.

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                              #30

                              @z3r0fox @JessTheUnstill Given what ICE is doing, it is extremely dangerous to use any site that does age verification in the US.

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                              • itsvague@mstdn.gamesI itsvague@mstdn.games

                                @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

                                Yeah, because in the end there is no real alternative.

                                No one wants to go through the work of setting up their own niche foss server and then have to convince their friends to figure out.

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                                #31

                                @itsVague @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu There is always an alternative, including signing off the Internet entirely. For my use, Mastodon is fine.

                                All the stuff that is complying with age verification is supported by ads, which in my case means I am already boycotting it. This will just mean a few more sites that like Facebook cannot even be read without an account. A few more sites I treat as 404 and move on from as I do paywalled or adwalled crap.

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                                • nikkileah@mendeddrum.orgN nikkileah@mendeddrum.org

                                  @JessTheUnstill I say we go with "Do you remember Chernobyl/Challenger/Fall of the Berlin Wall" as old typing.
                                  .. just answer "yes, it was terrible/terrible/exciting" as an answer.
                                  Instant age verification 😁😋😅

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                                  #32

                                  @Nikkileah @JessTheUnstill Until they hit a 15 year old Cold War historian.

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                    #33

                                    @JessTheUnstill that's it I'm fucking done. Iml'm getting back into coding. Fuck all this proprietary Nazi tech I'm building better as an act of antifascist resistance

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                                    • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                      @itsVague @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu There is always an alternative, including signing off the Internet entirely. For my use, Mastodon is fine.

                                      All the stuff that is complying with age verification is supported by ads, which in my case means I am already boycotting it. This will just mean a few more sites that like Facebook cannot even be read without an account. A few more sites I treat as 404 and move on from as I do paywalled or adwalled crap.

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                                      #34

                                      @LukefromDC @itsVague @FknHannu
                                      That's ... Really not an alternative when we have to do everything we can to INCREASE our connections to others, and the way people connect is via the internet. You're basically suggesting the digital equivalent of "well I don't like capitalism so I'll just move to my hut in the woods", which fine. Good luck with that. But most of us need jobs in order to eat.

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                                      • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                        @Nikkileah @JessTheUnstill Until they hit a 15 year old Cold War historian.

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                                        @JessTheUnstill @LukefromDC 😁😅

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                                        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                          @LukefromDC @itsVague @FknHannu
                                          That's ... Really not an alternative when we have to do everything we can to INCREASE our connections to others, and the way people connect is via the internet. You're basically suggesting the digital equivalent of "well I don't like capitalism so I'll just move to my hut in the woods", which fine. Good luck with that. But most of us need jobs in order to eat.

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                                          #36

                                          @JessTheUnstill @itsVague @FknHannu I think we speak from different positions in life.

                                          I prioritize complete disconnection from things that agitate me as I am autistic. Ads are a biggie here and age verification also sets me off.

                                          Let's make another "hut in the woods" analogy. I am sensitive to scent products and am sometimes driven out of a space by them.

                                          Some folks who are sensitive to almost all the airbourne chemistry of modern/industrialized life do in fact move to a hut in the woods or more often a community of rural cabins to escape it.

                                          So my position on age verification is thus similar to someone already living in a rural cabin over petro fumes hearing that a major perfume trend and marketing offensive is underway in the nearest town. They just have one additional reason to avoid it, nothing changes for them.

                                          You can have a job without being on Discord or Facebook of course, and rural areas DO have jobs, just not a lot of desk jobs.

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