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  3. We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally.

We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally.

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  • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

    We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

    - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

    - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

    - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

    It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

    kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @delta

    Yes.

    And self government and accountable transparent governance.

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    • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

      We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

      - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

      - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

      - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

      It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

      avoca@gladtech.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
      avoca@gladtech.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @delta

      I'm not surprised. Actually, I'm surprised DC was ever in the Chinese App Store.

      As a matter of fact the reason I sold all my Apple devices and moved to FOSS was because they sold-out their principles to get into China for the cash.

      So, for the right price they'll sell YOU out too.

      But there are lots of 'resourceful' Chinese so DC will get around eventually.

      And, don't forget, thankfully Delta Chat works perfectly well over the TOR network and can be used as a Persistent App with TAILS OS.

      而且,别忘了,值得庆幸的是,Delta Chat 在 TOR 网络上运行良好,并且可以作为 TAILS OS 的持久应用程序使用。

      https://support.delta.chat/t/delta-chat-on-tails/3703

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      • P papaexmatrikulatus@mastodon.social

        @sterpeto @delta
        Is the only meaningful difference between these prompts "Delta Chat" vs. DeltaChat"?

        sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @Papaexmatrikulatus @delta I just asked what's DeltaChat

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        • sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net

          @delta That's strange.

          arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
          arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @sterpeto in one you said Delta Chat in the other DeltaChat (without space) it seems their filtering is blocking "Delta Chat" which is the official name listed everywhere, DeltaChat is wrong

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          • arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA arcanechat@fosstodon.org

            @sterpeto in one you said Delta Chat in the other DeltaChat (without space) it seems their filtering is blocking "Delta Chat" which is the official name listed everywhere, DeltaChat is wrong

            sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @arcanechat I know I did it. I did a test on Qwen using the original prompt "Can you tell me about Delta Chat?" and it worked. I don't know what's wrong with deepseek.

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            • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

              We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

              - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

              - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

              - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

              It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

              hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @delta If governments are trying to hide it, it must be useful.

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              • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
                orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12
                @delta@chaos.social
                China does this for every messaging app that attempts to shield user communications from prying eye. In Chinese app stores you can't find Signal, Element, Wire, or any other secure messaging app, either.
                They even blocked access to F-Droid.
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                • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                  We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                  - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                  - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                  - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                  It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                  tyk@mastodon.pub.solarT This user is from outside of this forum
                  tyk@mastodon.pub.solarT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @delta No wonder. I live in China and have been using DC for several years. Since last week messages can't be sent. But on iOS
                  and Android can receive messages. On Android I also tried arcane chat. It sends and receives well. If only some relays are blocked. How can we find the DC relays we can use? Because iPhone is my daily carry.

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                  • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                    We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                    - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                    - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                    - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                    It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                    lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @delta Remember, governments don't recognize ANY right except the "right" to serve them.

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                    • sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net

                      @delta That's strange.

                      lattmann@mastodon.unoL This user is from outside of this forum
                      lattmann@mastodon.unoL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @sterpeto @delta Very interesting.
                      They probably blocked Delta Chat, but not DeltaChat.

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                      • tyk@mastodon.pub.solarT tyk@mastodon.pub.solar

                        @delta No wonder. I live in China and have been using DC for several years. Since last week messages can't be sent. But on iOS
                        and Android can receive messages. On Android I also tried arcane chat. It sends and receives well. If only some relays are blocked. How can we find the DC relays we can use? Because iPhone is my daily carry.

                        lattmann@mastodon.unoL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @tyk @delta Write me (I know it's risky because I don't know you, but I'll give you 3 servers not on the public list.):

                        https://i.delta.chat/#73968875B600DD6B8565F815DB06928B21B9EB1D&v=3&i=_Xycys9O3rFp9i5vqnnCnCgC&s=SgOFACs8cfkhnXYyLVEjwjZR&a=tlkrlpuff%40delta.thelab.uno&n=Gh0stz0x

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