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  3. We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally.

We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally.

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  • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

    We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

    - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

    - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

    - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

    It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

    wsb@snac.noc.blueW This user is from outside of this forum
    wsb@snac.noc.blueW This user is from outside of this forum
    wsb@snac.noc.blue
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    #3
    Can anyone reproduce this on open-weight DeepSeek models?
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    • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

      We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

      - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

      - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

      - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

      It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

      sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
      sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
      sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #4

      @delta That's strange.

      P arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA lattmann@mastodon.unoL 3 Replies Last reply
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      • sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net

        @delta That's strange.

        P This user is from outside of this forum
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        papaexmatrikulatus@mastodon.social
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        #5

        @sterpeto @delta
        Is the only meaningful difference between these prompts "Delta Chat" vs. DeltaChat"?

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        • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

          We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

          - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

          - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

          - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

          It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

          kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
          kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
          kevinrns@mstdn.social
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          #6

          @delta

          Yes.

          And self government and accountable transparent governance.

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          • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

            We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

            - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

            - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

            - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

            It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

            avoca@gladtech.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
            avoca@gladtech.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
            avoca@gladtech.social
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            #7

            @delta

            I'm not surprised. Actually, I'm surprised DC was ever in the Chinese App Store.

            As a matter of fact the reason I sold all my Apple devices and moved to FOSS was because they sold-out their principles to get into China for the cash.

            So, for the right price they'll sell YOU out too.

            But there are lots of 'resourceful' Chinese so DC will get around eventually.

            And, don't forget, thankfully Delta Chat works perfectly well over the TOR network and can be used as a Persistent App with TAILS OS.

            而且,别忘了,值得庆幸的是,Delta Chat 在 TOR 网络上运行良好,并且可以作为 TAILS OS 的持久应用程序使用。

            https://support.delta.chat/t/delta-chat-on-tails/3703

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            • P papaexmatrikulatus@mastodon.social

              @sterpeto @delta
              Is the only meaningful difference between these prompts "Delta Chat" vs. DeltaChat"?

              sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
              sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @Papaexmatrikulatus @delta I just asked what's DeltaChat

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              • sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net

                @delta That's strange.

                arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                arcanechat@fosstodon.org
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                #9

                @sterpeto in one you said Delta Chat in the other DeltaChat (without space) it seems their filtering is blocking "Delta Chat" which is the official name listed everywhere, DeltaChat is wrong

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                • arcanechat@fosstodon.orgA arcanechat@fosstodon.org

                  @sterpeto in one you said Delta Chat in the other DeltaChat (without space) it seems their filtering is blocking "Delta Chat" which is the official name listed everywhere, DeltaChat is wrong

                  sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                  sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                  sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #10

                  @arcanechat I know I did it. I did a test on Qwen using the original prompt "Can you tell me about Delta Chat?" and it worked. I don't know what's wrong with deepseek.

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                  • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                    We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                    - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                    - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                    - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                    It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                    hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    hellomiakoda@pdx.social
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                    #11

                    @delta If governments are trying to hide it, it must be useful.

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                    • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                      We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                      - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                      - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                      - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                      It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                      orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
                      orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
                      orca@nya.one
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #12
                      @delta@chaos.social
                      China does this for every messaging app that attempts to shield user communications from prying eye. In Chinese app stores you can't find Signal, Element, Wire, or any other secure messaging app, either.
                      They even blocked access to F-Droid.
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                      • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                        We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                        - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                        - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                        - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                        It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                        tyk@mastodon.pub.solarT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tyk@mastodon.pub.solarT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tyk@mastodon.pub.solar
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                        #13

                        @delta No wonder. I live in China and have been using DC for several years. Since last week messages can't be sent. But on iOS
                        and Android can receive messages. On Android I also tried arcane chat. It sends and receives well. If only some relays are blocked. How can we find the DC relays we can use? Because iPhone is my daily carry.

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                        • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

                          We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

                          - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

                          - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

                          - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

                          It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                          lukefromdc@kolektiva.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #14

                          @delta Remember, governments don't recognize ANY right except the "right" to serve them.

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                          • sterpeto@social.vivaldi.netS sterpeto@social.vivaldi.net

                            @delta That's strange.

                            lattmann@mastodon.unoL This user is from outside of this forum
                            lattmann@mastodon.unoL This user is from outside of this forum
                            lattmann@mastodon.uno
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                            #15

                            @sterpeto @delta Very interesting.
                            They probably blocked Delta Chat, but not DeltaChat.

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                            • tyk@mastodon.pub.solarT tyk@mastodon.pub.solar

                              @delta No wonder. I live in China and have been using DC for several years. Since last week messages can't be sent. But on iOS
                              and Android can receive messages. On Android I also tried arcane chat. It sends and receives well. If only some relays are blocked. How can we find the DC relays we can use? Because iPhone is my daily carry.

                              lattmann@mastodon.unoL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              lattmann@mastodon.uno
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #16

                              @tyk @delta Write me (I know it's risky because I don't know you, but I'll give you 3 servers not on the public list.):

                              https://i.delta.chat/#73968875B600DD6B8565F815DB06928B21B9EB1D&v=3&i=_Xycys9O3rFp9i5vqnnCnCgC&s=SgOFACs8cfkhnXYyLVEjwjZR&a=tlkrlpuff%40delta.thelab.uno&n=Gh0stz0x

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