How much slop is in Linux now?

[moblack@mastodon.online]

@McCovican @spitfire @davidgerard unfortunately, the trend more and more agentic AI contributions to the kernel and less and less humans vetted to make those AI contributions. Linux will stop being a community project, and it will be more like a few key maintainers and companies managing AI agents to mutate the code, "open source" only in the sense that, I guess, you can look at the code with your eyeballs if you want

[davidgerard@circumstances.run]

@paul a wise choice

good thing masto works on an abacus now

[moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org]

@davidgerard @paul
"good thing masto works on an abacus now"
i thought that was supposed to be SNAC and GoToSocial's big feature.

[cstanhope@social.coop]

@tmw @kbm0 @davidgerard Yeah, I don't know for sure, but considering Linux is basically a corporate project, this change will also provide welcome ambiguity for lawyers that either want to enforce copyright claim on the kernel or deny copyright infringement. The ambiguity will also be useful for lobbyists when arguing for favorable changes to laws, "It's already deeply embedded, and there's no way to tell what was written by what!"

[zedaardv@mastodon.world]

@McCovican @spitfire @davidgerard

Wait is he arguing that deterministic and non-deterministic are the same thing?

[byte@awawa.club]

@davidgerard wow that’s pathetic

[cynaq@beige.party]

@spitfire @davidgerard I’m afraid this will not end in Torvalds getting over whatever this is but us realizing he’s a full blown neonazi or something.

[spitfire@mastodon.de]

@zedaardv yep - that's what he's doing. The mind boggles!

[zedaardv@mastodon.world]

@spitfire
Damn! what a muppet.

[opmodoro@mastodon.uno]

@davidgerard if not for explicites audit reason, there is no need to have it. Who commit is the owner and responsible.

[sdrhoernchen@chaos.social]

@davidgerard I have always perceived these footnotes and tags as free advertisement for multi billion dollar corporations that already make the news every other day with new bullshit hacks and mishaps because plastering the company name across everything there is is the only thing that matters, they want to be everywhere all the time. Therefore I'm happy with less ad spam, in particular due to the unenforcable, voluntary nature of these tags, a generic "assisted by: LLM" would be kinda useless.

[davidgerard@circumstances.run]

@Opmodoro 0 follower spam sockpuppet

[dimenzio@social.linux.pizza]

@CynAq @spitfire @davidgerard I also don't think he gets over it. He just seems so ultra utility-focused and small scoped. Who cares it's drowning the reviewers, or leading to widespread problems mental wise. To him it feels faster right now, and probably does in the future when he vibe codes some other random bullshit. Review burden, understanding of systems and code? Who needs it, go pay Anthropic to save them one more day until they burn, bitches.

[kramaker@social.vivaldi.net]

@davidgerard Final straw for me. I am, as Emperor Penguin suggested, "forking off"...to #NetBSD

[spitfire@mastodon.de]

@dimenzio @CynAq @davidgerard after catching up on all his recent posts I am going to retract my "glimmer of hope" statement. The man is deteriorating fast.

[eadanila@mastodon.social]

@davidgerard What I don’t understand is why this seems to be the only place the kernel is willing to embrace anything modern. I mean, there was a maintainers’ revolt over Rust and development still happens over email with format-patch, but LLMs come in and suddenly it’s all about accepting the future of software development.

[efreethought@universeodon.com]

@zedaardv @McCovican @spitfire @davidgerard

"And quite honestly, in my experience, the people I respect and call
intelligent are not the ones that shy away from using new and
interesting tools."

Being new does not make something interesting or useful.

Also: Kind of hard to "shy away" from something that is being forced on you.

[efreethought@universeodon.com]

@davidgerard

Maybe they have reached the point where they are no longer actually "assisted by" the LLMs, and just taking whatever comes out of it.

A lot of LLM users go through that cycle: They start out careful, then they just take what it gives.

Kind of like that like about being addicted to alcohol or smoking: It starts out as a guest, but becomes the master.

[slotos@toot.community]

@eadanila @davidgerard Follow the money.

[bjc@shangdu.kublai.com]

@spitfire @davidgerard the problem is that he likes using it, so it must be good when he does it. all the other stuff he doesn’t like is because other people use it badly. therefore it must be just a tool, with no other qualifiers

as my mom used to tell me, “welp, there’s no arguing with that logic”