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  3. Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

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  • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

    Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

    Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

    Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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    @eivind Veldig rart.

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    • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

      Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

      Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

      Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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      #5

      @eivind I know it in one indigenous language of the region: rovnegs (south sámi), but I don't think it is specific to any of the 8 seasons

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      • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

        Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

        Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

        Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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        #6

        @eivind
        Imagine how much bullshit we have read about the "mysterious exotic natives" from around the world over the years.

        When it happens to us Scandinavians it's suddenly so jarring.

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        • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

          @eivind
          Imagine how much bullshit we have read about the "mysterious exotic natives" from around the world over the years.

          When it happens to us Scandinavians it's suddenly so jarring.

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          @notsoloud The anglos have been looting the Scandi languages for their self-help grifts for well over a decade, but I think they'll have a hard time monetizing this 😁

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          • josteinsn@oslo.townJ josteinsn@oslo.town

            @eivind det var litt rart, men så er det da også snart mørketid.

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            #8

            @JosteinSN @eivind Jag är inte särskilt bra på norska, men betyder inte rar bara "konstig"?

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            • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

              @JosteinSN @eivind Jag är inte särskilt bra på norska, men betyder inte rar bara "konstig"?

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              #9

              @loke jo 🙂 @JosteinSN

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              • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                @notsoloud The anglos have been looting the Scandi languages for their self-help grifts for well over a decade, but I think they'll have a hard time monetizing this 😁

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                #10

                @eivind
                Would work better with Danish rar 😆

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                • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

                  @eivind
                  Would work better with Danish rar 😆

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                  @notsoloud Swedish rar is where the money's at 🙂

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                  • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                    Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

                    Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

                    Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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                    #12

                    @eivind "her eyes smart from unending daylight". IKKE SE DIREKTE PA SOLA!

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                    • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                      Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

                      Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

                      Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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                      #13

                      @eivind @jbenjamint Completely weird to read this as a Scandinavian. Also, of course, the word went in the other direction in Danish and came to mean “nice”.

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                      • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

                        @JosteinSN @eivind Jag är inte särskilt bra på norska, men betyder inte rar bara "konstig"?

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                        #14

                        @loke @JosteinSN @eivind og "kunstig" er "artificiell" 😊

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                        • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                          @notsoloud The anglos have been looting the Scandi languages for their self-help grifts for well over a decade, but I think they'll have a hard time monetizing this 😁

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                          @eivind @notsoloud RAR YOUR LIFE. ANCIENT WISDOM FROM THE ETERNAL SCANDI SUMMERS FOR HEALTHY LIVING. with a preface by Gwyneth Rar Paltrow.

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                          • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                            @eivind @jbenjamint Completely weird to read this as a Scandinavian. Also, of course, the word went in the other direction in Danish and came to mean “nice”.

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                            @SuneAuken @eivind @jbenjamint Det er rart at være rar. Uh-oh. Hvor kom vedkommende fra?

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                            • trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT trezzer@social.linux.pizza

                              @SuneAuken @eivind @jbenjamint Det er rart at være rar. Uh-oh. Hvor kom vedkommende fra?

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                              @trezzer Forfatteren var ei dame fra Østerrike som tilbragte tid på Svalbard sammen med mannen sin på 30-tallet. Hu kunne ikke noe norsk da hu reiste, men lærte litt fra norske Karl som bodde sammen med dem. Sjølbiografien er nylig "gjennoppdaga" og nyutgitt på engelsk, i hvert fall, så i hyllene nå. Fant ei annen anglodame ved Norges arktiske universitet som siterte forordet, så rar er på reise i anglosfæren 😁 @SuneAuken @jbenjamint

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                              • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                                @loke @JosteinSN @eivind og "kunstig" er "artificiell" 😊

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                                #18

                                @veronica @JosteinSN @eivind OK, "falska vänner":

                                søt → rar
                                rar → konstig
                                kunstig → artificiell
                                artificiell → ????

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                                • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

                                  @veronica @JosteinSN @eivind OK, "falska vänner":

                                  søt → rar
                                  rar → konstig
                                  kunstig → artificiell
                                  artificiell → ????

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                                  @loke @JosteinSN @eivind "artificiell" finnes ikke på norsk.

                                  Men jeg innser nå at "kunstig intelligens" gir mer mening på svensk enn på norsk! 😀

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                                  • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                                    Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

                                    Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

                                    Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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                                    @eivind snodig.

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                                    • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                                      @trezzer Forfatteren var ei dame fra Østerrike som tilbragte tid på Svalbard sammen med mannen sin på 30-tallet. Hu kunne ikke noe norsk da hu reiste, men lærte litt fra norske Karl som bodde sammen med dem. Sjølbiografien er nylig "gjennoppdaga" og nyutgitt på engelsk, i hvert fall, så i hyllene nå. Fant ei annen anglodame ved Norges arktiske universitet som siterte forordet, så rar er på reise i anglosfæren 😁 @SuneAuken @jbenjamint

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                                      #21

                                      @eivind @trezzer @jbenjamint Hvor det så møder “rare” uden at opdage, at det er det samme ord.

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                                      • eivind@fribygda.noE eivind@fribygda.no

                                        Ekstremely fascinating to see the arch of a simple word in my mother tongue becoming a whole mystical concept after being filtered through two non-native speakers.

                                        Basically, Karl the Norwegian says Crissie's become strange/weird, and presumably she, the author, adds a whole lot of specific meaning from stories she's heard into the word.

                                        Then Wheeler develops the yarn further, claiming that not only Norwegian, but all indigenous languages of the polar region have a word for this concept. #Rar

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                                        @eivind we have rar in Finnish, we just call it arj, and I think the Sami word is zip.

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                                        • josteinsn@oslo.townJ josteinsn@oslo.town

                                          @eivind @notsoloud RAR YOUR LIFE. ANCIENT WISDOM FROM THE ETERNAL SCANDI SUMMERS FOR HEALTHY LIVING. with a preface by Gwyneth Rar Paltrow.

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                                          @JosteinSN @eivind @notsoloud

                                          "Unrar your life: Expand, decompress and learn to take the space required for your full self."

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