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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    @tshirtman My favorite. I spent probably 30 minute in the MET in the Pollock room; a large (oversized) room with a massive pollock , in black and white over a cardboard colored background. That's epic abstraction; the movement, the dance, the happening. Yes, really ahead of our time. I wish I could visit this room weekly as a reminder of how powerful is art.

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    #95

    @davidrevoy Nice! it's also the room i sit the longest in when i visited, it's awesome work.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      @smoi Merci du retour! J'étais préoccupé avant de le poster que le concept se comprenne mal; je suis très content de voir que ça fonctionne!

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      #96

      @davidrevoy @smoi
      Je m'en suis rendu compte à la 3ème case, et comme Smoi, je suis tout de suite retourné au début. Ça marche bien !

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      • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

        @davidrevoy

        after photography was invented, so was abstract painting and a whole bunch of styles (fauvisme, cubisme, expressionisme) that strayed from the painstaking 'realism' of the time

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        #97

        @davidrevoy

        but yet, photographers and 'collage' artists did have to pay their dues to the paintings they were using...

        Which is something that LLMs are not doing.

        And we're just considering painting, here, not MUSIC, and writing, and coding.

        Which is degrading the quality of everything - like using cardboard and calling it meat.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          The Aesthetic Rebellion

          Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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          #98

          @davidrevoy Who are you, warrior that fooled AI?

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            The Aesthetic Rebellion

            Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

            #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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            #99

            @davidrevoy The meta level of this comic sparks joy in me.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              The Aesthetic Rebellion

              Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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              #100

              @davidrevoy Is it sad that one of my motivators to finally get a new PC was that I'm tired of Glaze taking 50 minutes to run on my shitty old GPU? I know it doesn't do much, but I want the images I post to be just that slightly bit shittier as training data. Fortunately have never been mistaken for AI (only told that I'm equally uninspired).

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                @ScriptFanix @lunareclipse @catsalad @realFedix 😵 oh wow. That's indeed a lot...

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                #101

                @davidrevoy I love how you poisoned your art though, the human way 🙂
                @lunareclipse @catsalad @realFedix

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  The Aesthetic Rebellion

                  Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                  nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol
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                  #102
                  AI wishes it can be this good
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                  • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #103

                    @june @davidrevoy Je suis bien d’accord !

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      The Aesthetic Rebellion

                      Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                      #104

                      @davidrevoy

                      Real art. Real satire. Real human.💙

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                      • lidsel@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lidsel@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @davidrevoy Is it sad that one of my motivators to finally get a new PC was that I'm tired of Glaze taking 50 minutes to run on my shitty old GPU? I know it doesn't do much, but I want the images I post to be just that slightly bit shittier as training data. Fortunately have never been mistaken for AI (only told that I'm equally uninspired).

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                        #105

                        @lidsel Here I think Glaze/Nightshade is meh, I'm talking about it on https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/117124006373289208 ; but I get the "slightly bit shittier"; and I'm sure it's effective for at least that.
                        I find also the list of glitch and all the filters of GMIC (already bundled in Krita) really cool; especially in "degrade" category, I used them a lot for this comic, and I'll explore for more.
                        Edit: good luck for the quest of a new PC in this economy! I had to change a 2TB harddrive this week, and ... 🙃 the prices.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          @lidsel Here I think Glaze/Nightshade is meh, I'm talking about it on https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/117124006373289208 ; but I get the "slightly bit shittier"; and I'm sure it's effective for at least that.
                          I find also the list of glitch and all the filters of GMIC (already bundled in Krita) really cool; especially in "degrade" category, I used them a lot for this comic, and I'll explore for more.
                          Edit: good luck for the quest of a new PC in this economy! I had to change a 2TB harddrive this week, and ... 🙃 the prices.

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                          #106

                          @davidrevoy Yeah, I never cared that much about protecting against style replication (who's targeting me anyway), it's just out of spite.

                          I got the computer, finished assembling it last week. Got the RAM, SSD and GPU at the end of last year, so I avoided the worst of the price hike. But yeah, the HDD situation is worrying - WD sold 100% of their capacity through 2030. I'm considering stocking up while it's still possible to get them. It's going to be a tough few years.

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            The Aesthetic Rebellion

                            Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                            #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                            #107

                            @davidrevoy

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                            • andrewrk@mastodon.socialA andrewrk@mastodon.social

                              @davidrevoy but why doesn't she just get rid of the bird and draw what she wants?

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                              #108

                              @andrewrk @davidrevoy THE BIRD IS INEVITABLE

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                The Aesthetic Rebellion

                                Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                #109

                                @davidrevoy no matter the medium I always love expressions where the advice is slowly incorporated into the style of the advice. I've done it with writing and it's so fun to see it with digital painting

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  The Aesthetic Rebellion

                                  Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                  #110

                                  @davidrevoy True skill at work, to render a result heinous to a machine trying to scrape it and train on it to replicate it, and yet is entirely beautiful to the human eye that beholds it. The green on Cepper in the final panel produces a color and design that I find entirely fashionable, if not her preferred black. The roughness, angularity, and coloration of the later panels still works entirely well for being visually appealing and telling the story. Well done, technically and artistically.

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    The Aesthetic Rebellion

                                    Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                                    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                    #111
                                    @davidrevoy I love that even your deliberately "bad" art still looks better than my current best work. 🙃
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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      The Aesthetic Rebellion

                                      Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                                      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                      #112
                                      @davidrevoy it's really genuinely so sad that people think your art is cocaine-generated, these are wonderful and i'm sorry people are like that
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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        @artsalgod I agree that crawling and training "takes it all", but I think some data are really labeled "ugly", and therefore, even if possibly generate-able back, they are often excluded because the AI company think the user wants only high quality graphics and label, something that looks pro, detailed, etc...
                                        So, maybe there is a niche for human in the non-commercial ugly labels 🙂

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                                        #113
                                        I was wondering about your rationale. I hope for you it works.
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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          The Aesthetic Rebellion

                                          Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/066.html#bonus

                                          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                          #114
                                          I see the spoonerism!
                                          I thought Cepper was Pepper until I checked the alt text. Looks like a more grown-up version, now that I compare.
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