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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

    @apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

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    apicultor@hachyderm.io
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    #64

    @fdroidorg
    Have you addressed the points made by the creator of #Wireguard regarding the security of your build infra?

    https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613430404

    Supply chain security is super-duper underrated. Thanks for the spotlight, Jia Tan!

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    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

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      #65

      @fdroidorg @marcprux Contacted the Department of Justice and the US Federal Trade Commission with a request of acknowledgement from both. 👌

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      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

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        #66

        @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

        Directly or indirectly?

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        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          nathanael@exquisite.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #67

          @fdroidorg @marcprux why is @GrapheneOS not listed? this feels a little bit like fearmongering

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          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            juh@hostsharing.coopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #68

            @marcprux @fdroidorg There ist no freedom in capitalism.

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            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              lepinejpaul@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              lepinejpaul@mastodon.social
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              #69

              @fdroidorg @marcprux : pour ma part, j'ai un fairphone 4 avec e/os installé, avec F-droid dedans depuis quelques années déjà et cette info ne me surprend nullement.

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              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

                apnoe_soeren@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                apnoe_soeren@mastodon.social
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                #70

                @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

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                  dei@is.nota.live
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                  #71

                  @techlore please make a video about it!

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                  • izzyondroid@floss.socialI izzyondroid@floss.social

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                    This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

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                    #72

                    @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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                    • fynn@digitalcourage.socialF fynn@digitalcourage.social

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux
                      I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                      Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                      Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

                      m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz
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                      #73

                      @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        tourma@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        tourma@tech.lgbt
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                        #74

                        @fdroidorg
                        Ugh, looks like I might be using /e/OS sooner than expected.

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                        • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
                          @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                          #75

                          @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                          The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                          1) Spyware and adware
                          2) Spyware and adware
                          3) Spyware and adware
                          4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                          5) Spyware and adware
                          6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                          I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                          Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

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                          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #76

                            @fdroidorg
                            Thank you for your amazing work. For me its time to switch to Linux in under 200 days.

                            @marcprux

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                            • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                              @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                              The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                              1) Spyware and adware
                              2) Spyware and adware
                              3) Spyware and adware
                              4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                              5) Spyware and adware
                              6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                              I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                              Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

                              fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #77
                              @2something @fdroidorg @marcprux 1. I believe that it's specifically about stalkerware that gets distributed as sideloaded, anonymously signed APKs to avoid detection by Google Play Protect. I think this change will have a significant positive impact on the stalkerware market and result in a reduction in technology-facilitated intimate partner violence, making it a worthy tradeoff. Most open-source projects are not developed anonymously, and if developers don't want to get a certificate, nothing stops a third-party marketplace like F-Droid from building a signed, distributable APK for them. The same people complaining about this have already built the solution. "I'm altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further" just feels entitled and missing the point entirely.
                              2. I would specifically get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, because I want to run free and open source software on it, as I already have. I don't want other people tampering with my phone and requiring messing with the bootloader and performing a factory reset (which i would notice) to sideload untrusted apps is a security feature I want.

                              If you don't like it, try coming up with a better solution, or you know, try doing some work with victims of stalking by intimate partners to realize it is actually a much bigger problem for them than whatever spying Google Play Services is doing. Have a good day.
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                              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

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                                cimb4@norden.social
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                                #78

                                @fdroidorg i hope @shiftphones has planned for this already

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                                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

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                                  yianiris@kafeneio.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #79

                                  We don't have representatives, we live in capitalism. All those elected to run government represent multinational industries and their federation, banks and financial institutions. We are their enemy, they are not going to listen.

                                  Unless....

                                  We force them to listen

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux

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                                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

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                                    paradox@social.tchncs.de
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                                    #80

                                    You have to know how to make a report correctly. It's not for average doomscroller.

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                                    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                      @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

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                                      #81

                                      @fdroidorg @crazyeddie

                                      What @crazyeddie is trying to say: standing up for openness, freedom, and the right to choose your own tools only makes sense in a society where openness, freedom, rights or even rational discourse still have any meaning at all. The US is probably no longer such a society.

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                                      • jsbilsbrough@mastodon.me.ukJ jsbilsbrough@mastodon.me.uk

                                        @fdroidorg hey gang, I host @crossed, would anyone from the F-Droid team like to come chat to us about this and why this fundamentally breaks the Android promise?

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                                        #82

                                        @jsbilsbrough @fdroidorg I'd be happy to chat. Message or email me and we can set up a time.

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                                        • nicolaottomano@mastodon.unoN nicolaottomano@mastodon.uno

                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux

                                          Tagging @EUCommission

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                                          #83
                                          @nicolaottomano Oh, that'll work. 😉
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