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Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis

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  • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

    Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
    And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
    I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

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    #75

    @Richard_Littler “historically accurate” and “ai generated” in the same sentence 💔 mind you this man is a trillionaire and still refuses to hire actors, writers, and a set crew.

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    • T tribactam@social.vivaldi.net

      @Richard_Littler

      but is he going to do it in various dialects of Ancient Greek though? (Mel Gibson's "Passion" comes to mind). If it's AI generated junk, it is not going to be historically accurate.

      He's a total tosser.

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      #76

      @tribactam I haven't seen Gibson's film, and don't plan to, but I've been told by Bible scholars that it's inaccurate with languages. As I recall, Romans would have spoken a kind of Latin among themselves, and Jews there a kind of Aramaic (not Hebrew), but the common language of that place and time would have been a dialect of Koine Greek.

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      • rincewind@unseen-university.socialR rincewind@unseen-university.social

        @Richard_Littler

        Musk, thats the lame-o who said he will offer a full-self-driving Tesla "next year" ? And another one for max 20.000 US$ ?

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        #77

        @rincewind Don't forget, he also promised to have people on Mars by eight years ago.

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        • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

          @Richard_Littler
          *checks calendar*
          No, it's not the first of April.

          *checks again*
          Ah. So, a full length film scripted, shot and cut in 5 months. OK.

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          #78

          @petealexharris He believes his machines can do it. Which they might. But whatever they churn out is certain to be garbage.

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          • doomhammerng@mastodon.socialD doomhammerng@mastodon.social

            @Richard_Littler also, this guy vows a lot. I wonder why is he still on Earth, though, as he vowed to be living on Mars by 2014

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            #79

            @DoomHammerNG @Richard_Littler Oh how I wish that had come to pass.

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              #80

              @JonnyT Now, THAT'S the germ of what could be a truly brilliant satire. A man goes to see Elmo's new film, then has to get back home, upon which he's beset by many challenges, goes strange places, and meets strange people. I'd call in the Coen brothers for this, but they already did Brother Where Art Thou?

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              • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                @Remittancegirl @Richard_Littler

                There are people who got very upset with Game of Thrones when the dragons arrived. Up until then, they thought they were watching an historically accurate re-enactment.

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                #81

                @davidtheeviloverlord @Remittancegirl @Richard_Littler Oooh, now I want an historically accurate Chronicles of Amber! 🤩

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                • mediocreman@mastodon.socialM mediocreman@mastodon.social

                  @Richard_Littler He does know that although the narrative is deeply rooted in real history IT IS FICTION!

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                  #82

                  @Mediocreman Where, there was a real Trojan War. But that's about it. As with most Ancient Greek tales, it's drenched in mythology that's very far from any kind of objective reality.

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                    #83

                    @Christo_459 I'm actually not sure WHAT he understands anymore. He's increasingly loopy and disconnected from reality.

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                    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                      Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
                      And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
                      I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

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                      #84

                      @Richard_Littler "Hello. I'm looking for Leda".

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                      • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                        @Richard_Littler Historically accurate and AI in the same sentence. Who expected that? But whatever. How can any rendering of an ancient story be accurate? Do we have an authenticated first edition to work from, or a mash-up of fragmented versions, quotes, references and re-writes?

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                        #85

                        @pthane Mash-up is pretty much all we have. Even when these tales were first being translated into Western European languages more than a thousand years ago, mash-ups were about all that still existed then. Even the Ancient Greeks probably argued about it.

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                        • pcdevil@mastodon.socialP pcdevil@mastodon.social

                          @Richard_Littler any time I read a news I replace his name with "a 5 years old boy with temper tantrums", and somehow it still carries the same meaning 🤷‍♂️

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                          #86

                          @pcdevil That's a bit vague. Without context or other details, I still wouldn't know if you're talking about him or the fat one.

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                          • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                            We truly live in the thickest era of human evolution. You can forgive the ignorance of our ancestors because they had limited access to knowledge, but now the sheer volume of verified learning at our fingertips is unprecedented. Being so ignorant is a wilful act of self-defeating spite.

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                            #87

                            @Richard_Littler

                            Getting your news from Fox and truth social and Sinclair is a choice. People have options to make better choices. Democracy Now! Is widely available, no paywall.

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                            • stevenheywood@mastodonapp.ukS stevenheywood@mastodonapp.uk

                              @Richard_Littler
                              "Historically accurate" is a long-winded way of saying "Aryan," isn't it?

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                              #88

                              @Stevenheywood In this case, yes. Elmo's fundamental impetus is deep, deep bigotry. Which, of course, relies on even deeper ignorance and self-delusion. He's very stupid.

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                              • llanciawn@mastodon.socialL llanciawn@mastodon.social

                                @Richard_Littler It'll do worse than Melania's

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                                #89

                                @llanciawn I dunno, the entertainment value might be much higher, stupid as it would have to be.

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                                • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                                  Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
                                  And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
                                  I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

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                                  #90

                                  @Richard_Littler but the US and the world were created 2026 years ago, filled with white christians. How can a story take place before that...? (Seriously, how can madmen line Elon remain in power? Somebody shoud have put him in a nice secluded home where he couldn't do damage a long time ago)

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                                  • morton@kolektiva.socialM morton@kolektiva.social

                                    @Richard_Littler The conservative Polish poet Herbert once wrote that European culture consists of Judeo-Christianity, Roman law, and Greek humanism. For today’s Right, however, it is all about white skin and homophobia—not values. The Right does not stop to consider whether a film accurately portrays the attitudes of the gods or the morality of the era; it focuses solely on skin color. The Right is "going to the dogs"—a Polish idiom meaning they have deteriorated compared to the past. An interesting side note: in Poland, the police are referred to as "dogs" because they serve those in power.

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                                    #91

                                    @morton Hilariously, there were NO white people in the original tale. Not by 'traditional' wipipo thinking, anyway. There are Greeks right now, this very day, who are outraged that a Black man is in the film. Apparently unaware that Greeks themselves were not considered 'white' by most Americans until only about a century ago, if that.

                                    A lot of modern people are tragically stupid.

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                                    • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

                                      @Richard_Littler Historically accurate Elon Musk

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                                      #92

                                      @edgeofeurope @Richard_Littler good acurASSy

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                                      • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                        @rincewind Don't forget, he also promised to have people on Mars by eight years ago.

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                                        #93

                                        @wesdym

                                        Yeah. And that Microblog-Service that has no name anymore, just a char. He said it will be far better after his takeover.

                                        Ha ha ha

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                                        • T tribactam@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @morton @Richard_Littler

                                          "going to the dogs" is also a phrase in UK English - it means the same thing as your Polish idiom (degradation) - it comes from people "losing their shirts" by betting on the wrong ones at the dog races.

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                                          #94

                                          @tribactam

                                          The actual origin of the idiom is ancient and literal, and even appears in the Bible. It refers to the fact that food considered unfit for humans was given to dogs instead. That was often food that spoiled, and that's how it became an idiom for spoilage, ruin, or degradation.

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