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  • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

    Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
    And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
    I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

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    #70

    @Richard_Littler i guess by ”historically accurate” he means ”all the characters will be white, except the bad ones”…

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    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

      We truly live in the thickest era of human evolution. You can forgive the ignorance of our ancestors because they had limited access to knowledge, but now the sheer volume of verified learning at our fingertips is unprecedented. Being so ignorant is a wilful act of self-defeating spite.

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      #71

      @Richard_Littler In Elmo's case, it's also mental illness. He is not well. He's always been an arrogant, mouthy asshole, but by now he's also greatly self-deluded. He really believes a lot of his own bullshit, partly because he's increasingly detached from objective reality, and surrounds himself with people he's conditioned to lie to him (as many very rich or powerful people very foolishly do). He's deeply ignorant, but either doesn't know that (Dunning-Kruger), or tells himself otherwise.

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      • U unkx@icosahedron.website

        @Richard_Littler i guess by ”historically accurate” he means ”all the characters will be white, except the bad ones”…

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        #72

        @unkx Some Greeks are apparently outraged by some of the casting, for the same stupid reason.

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        • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

          @Richard_Littler - he's do well to produce a 'historically accurate' history of South Africa first. White Dutch Afrikaners subjugating, enslaving and torturing the Black aboriginals.
          Doubtless plenty of bizarre in-breeding and hidden sexual activities with 'lesser beings' involved, too.

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          #73

          @bazcook I was reading last night about the history of South Africa, most of which I thought I already knew. It's very complicated and hard to follow. But yeah, the last few centuries have mostly been about European subjugation of natives. A familiar story, sadly.

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          • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

            Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
            And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
            I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

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            #74

            @Richard_Littler ...when you think about it, it does sound like a massive AI glitch...

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            • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

              Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
              And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
              I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

              pri@cyberplace.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #75

              @Richard_Littler “historically accurate” and “ai generated” in the same sentence 💔 mind you this man is a trillionaire and still refuses to hire actors, writers, and a set crew.

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              • T tribactam@social.vivaldi.net

                @Richard_Littler

                but is he going to do it in various dialects of Ancient Greek though? (Mel Gibson's "Passion" comes to mind). If it's AI generated junk, it is not going to be historically accurate.

                He's a total tosser.

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                #76

                @tribactam I haven't seen Gibson's film, and don't plan to, but I've been told by Bible scholars that it's inaccurate with languages. As I recall, Romans would have spoken a kind of Latin among themselves, and Jews there a kind of Aramaic (not Hebrew), but the common language of that place and time would have been a dialect of Koine Greek.

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                • rincewind@unseen-university.socialR rincewind@unseen-university.social

                  @Richard_Littler

                  Musk, thats the lame-o who said he will offer a full-self-driving Tesla "next year" ? And another one for max 20.000 US$ ?

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                  #77

                  @rincewind Don't forget, he also promised to have people on Mars by eight years ago.

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                  • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                    @Richard_Littler
                    *checks calendar*
                    No, it's not the first of April.

                    *checks again*
                    Ah. So, a full length film scripted, shot and cut in 5 months. OK.

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                    #78

                    @petealexharris He believes his machines can do it. Which they might. But whatever they churn out is certain to be garbage.

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                    • doomhammerng@mastodon.socialD doomhammerng@mastodon.social

                      @Richard_Littler also, this guy vows a lot. I wonder why is he still on Earth, though, as he vowed to be living on Mars by 2014

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                      #79

                      @DoomHammerNG @Richard_Littler Oh how I wish that had come to pass.

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                      • wesdym@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #80

                        @JonnyT Now, THAT'S the germ of what could be a truly brilliant satire. A man goes to see Elmo's new film, then has to get back home, upon which he's beset by many challenges, goes strange places, and meets strange people. I'd call in the Coen brothers for this, but they already did Brother Where Art Thou?

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                        • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                          @Remittancegirl @Richard_Littler

                          There are people who got very upset with Game of Thrones when the dragons arrived. Up until then, they thought they were watching an historically accurate re-enactment.

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                          #81

                          @davidtheeviloverlord @Remittancegirl @Richard_Littler Oooh, now I want an historically accurate Chronicles of Amber! 🤩

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                          • mediocreman@mastodon.socialM mediocreman@mastodon.social

                            @Richard_Littler He does know that although the narrative is deeply rooted in real history IT IS FICTION!

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                            #82

                            @Mediocreman Where, there was a real Trojan War. But that's about it. As with most Ancient Greek tales, it's drenched in mythology that's very far from any kind of objective reality.

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                              #83

                              @Christo_459 I'm actually not sure WHAT he understands anymore. He's increasingly loopy and disconnected from reality.

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                              • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                                Helen of Troy was born from an egg as a result of her father turning into a swan (or goose) and mating with her mother, who may have been either Leda or Nemesis.
                                And let's not forget the 6-headed, 12-footed Scylla, and the half-bird, half-human sirens.
                                I look forward to all the hiSToRICle aCCuraSSy.

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                                #84

                                @Richard_Littler "Hello. I'm looking for Leda".

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                                • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                                  @Richard_Littler Historically accurate and AI in the same sentence. Who expected that? But whatever. How can any rendering of an ancient story be accurate? Do we have an authenticated first edition to work from, or a mash-up of fragmented versions, quotes, references and re-writes?

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                                  #85

                                  @pthane Mash-up is pretty much all we have. Even when these tales were first being translated into Western European languages more than a thousand years ago, mash-ups were about all that still existed then. Even the Ancient Greeks probably argued about it.

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                                  • pcdevil@mastodon.socialP pcdevil@mastodon.social

                                    @Richard_Littler any time I read a news I replace his name with "a 5 years old boy with temper tantrums", and somehow it still carries the same meaning 🤷‍♂️

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                                    #86

                                    @pcdevil That's a bit vague. Without context or other details, I still wouldn't know if you're talking about him or the fat one.

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                                    • richard_littler@mastodon.socialR richard_littler@mastodon.social

                                      We truly live in the thickest era of human evolution. You can forgive the ignorance of our ancestors because they had limited access to knowledge, but now the sheer volume of verified learning at our fingertips is unprecedented. Being so ignorant is a wilful act of self-defeating spite.

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                                      #87

                                      @Richard_Littler

                                      Getting your news from Fox and truth social and Sinclair is a choice. People have options to make better choices. Democracy Now! Is widely available, no paywall.

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                                      • stevenheywood@mastodonapp.ukS stevenheywood@mastodonapp.uk

                                        @Richard_Littler
                                        "Historically accurate" is a long-winded way of saying "Aryan," isn't it?

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                                        #88

                                        @Stevenheywood In this case, yes. Elmo's fundamental impetus is deep, deep bigotry. Which, of course, relies on even deeper ignorance and self-delusion. He's very stupid.

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                                        • llanciawn@mastodon.socialL llanciawn@mastodon.social

                                          @Richard_Littler It'll do worse than Melania's

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                                          #89

                                          @llanciawn I dunno, the entertainment value might be much higher, stupid as it would have to be.

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