this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.
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@danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.
Big claim - do you have any evidence for it?
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@Mabande @PaniczGodek @cabel I don’t think this is particularly controversial, no matter how much you twiddle the margins. If you think the majority of people are not more prosperous now, by any definition that is remotely objective— well, that is truely an extraordinary claim.
@danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel That's just the thing: what counts as "prosperous" and "poor"?
If it's a longer life expectancy with better health, prosperity is strictly linked to access to (free) vaccination and health care there's been great prosperity -- although often _in spite of_ the industrial revolution.
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@cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.
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@cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.
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@howking
"AI hate is lame" - factual is the word you're looking for"I understand you, and you understand me" - nope. You most definitely did not understand this https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367
"Just as steam engines came first, then gasoline engines were invented, and now we drive electric cars" - all of which involve engineering, which requires correct answers to Maths, which AI is incapable of
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@howking @danbrotherston @cabel
Like uh...asbestos ?@Teratogenese @howking @danbrotherston @cabel more like Internet
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this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.
when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.
@cabel cannot turn audio on and my lip reading skills are abysmal
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this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.
when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.
@cabel
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@danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.
@howking @danbrotherston @cabel The people not using AI are afraid to learn new skills? Oh, the irony...
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this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.
when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.
@cabel
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@PaniczGodek @cabel the Industrial Revolution also lifted billions of people out poverty and into prosperity. I don’t see AI doing anything like that.
@danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel If you see it from the distance of two centuries, from a society shaped by the industrial revolution it may look like that. But it seems you underestimate the massive disruption that it caused at the time.
For a lot of people the industrial revolution was catastrophic, bringing poverty, famine and early death. Trade unions, worker parties and communism were invented and revolutions staged. It took decades to fix the worst fallout of the industrial revolution.
Personally, I'd rather not have that happen in my lifetime but here we are.
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"The math does not math" - well, AI doesn't know how to do Maths anyway
https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367@SmartmanApps @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel but it kind of does? i mean theres mathematicians acknowledging its generating some pretty decent proofs of previously unsolved stuff and so forth. i dont see why people are always clinging to these by now obviously false claims of inaptitude when the issues are much more standard capitalism type
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@danbrotherston @howking @cabel Not only were the Luddites not against the machinery, many of them were MASTER USERS OF IT. Exactly as you said, the protest wasn't against machinery but against what it was doing to entire societies.
And it's the same fight today.
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@danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.
@howking @danbrotherston @cabel
Smluvní podmínky a základní lidská slušnost mi zakazují vyjádřit mou nefiltrovanou reakci na tenhle debilní výrok.
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@howking @danbrotherston @cabel
Smluvní podmínky a základní lidská slušnost mi zakazují vyjádřit mou nefiltrovanou reakci na tenhle debilní výrok.
@howking @danbrotherston @cabel
"U DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, UR JUST A HAAAAAAATER"
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@rainynight65 @cabel Don’t think she knows what she’s saying..
The industrial revolution was about deskilling, removing power #labour used to have, and concentrating it in the hands of those who owned the machines
This is the same plan #AI industrialists have right now
It isn’t one bit worth to celebrate. No teacher worth their salt should be praising it
The #industrialrevolution plunged majorities of citizens into poverty for 4 generations before they took control back!
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@cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.
History is **littered** with technology that was "here to stay" and was going to "change the world". **AI ALONE** has gone through at least four cycles of this hype in my lifetime alone!
LLMbeciles, in specific, are going to die a horrible death as soon as the fiscal gloves come off and be relegated to tiny niches like all prior AI did.
But go ahead. Ignore history. I'll just grab the popcorn and watch.
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this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.
when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.
@cabel I didn't think she connects the dots on what either the booing or cheering is for
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@cabel The companies building AI have told us for the past few years that AI can do our jobs better and cheaper than us and that it will replace us. This sounds great if you're an investor, but we are not investors. We are people who need to work to make ends meet and pay our bills. The vast majority of society is.
@alpacamale @cabel It doesn’t ”do our jobs better”, but it does certain jobs better that used to be where juniors trained to become seniors.
This changes the job description in programming and art production to become more of a manager than a craftsman, which is already happening.
These new jobs have to them more of a mass-production vibe than making beautiful things.
They still need some high-skilled workers, but much fewer, thus corporates can now select for loyalty
