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this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

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  • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

    this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

    when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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    #57

    @cabel
    The kids are alright...

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    • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

      @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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      #58

      @howking @danbrotherston @cabel The people not using AI are afraid to learn new skills? Oh, the irony...

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      • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

        this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

        when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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        #59

        @cabel
        The kids are alright.

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        • danbrotherston@types.plD danbrotherston@types.pl

          @PaniczGodek @cabel the Industrial Revolution also lifted billions of people out poverty and into prosperity. I don’t see AI doing anything like that.

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          #60

          @danbrotherston @PaniczGodek @cabel If you see it from the distance of two centuries, from a society shaped by the industrial revolution it may look like that. But it seems you underestimate the massive disruption that it caused at the time.

          For a lot of people the industrial revolution was catastrophic, bringing poverty, famine and early death. Trade unions, worker parties and communism were invented and revolutions staged. It took decades to fix the worst fallout of the industrial revolution.

          Personally, I'd rather not have that happen in my lifetime but here we are.

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          • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel
            "The math does not math" - well, AI doesn't know how to do Maths anyway 😂 https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367

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            #61

            @SmartmanApps @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel but it kind of does? i mean theres mathematicians acknowledging its generating some pretty decent proofs of previously unsolved stuff and so forth. i dont see why people are always clinging to these by now obviously false claims of inaptitude when the issues are much more standard capitalism type

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            • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

              @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel
              "The math does not math" - well, AI doesn't know how to do Maths anyway 😂 https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/116000100388648367

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              #62

              @SmartmanApps @GhostOnTheHalfShell @cabel

              https://mastodon.me.uk/@pikesley/114705903661841870

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              • danbrotherston@types.plD danbrotherston@types.pl

                @howking @cabel the luddites weren’t against the machine, they were against capitalist ownership and the transition of craftsmen with some power into factory workers with none. It’s a much more nuanced storey.

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                #63

                @danbrotherston @howking @cabel Not only were the Luddites not against the machinery, many of them were MASTER USERS OF IT. Exactly as you said, the protest wasn't against machinery but against what it was doing to entire societies.

                And it's the same fight today.

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                • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                  @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                  #64

                  @howking @danbrotherston @cabel

                  Smluvní podmínky a základní lidská slušnost mi zakazují vyjádřit mou nefiltrovanou reakci na tenhle debilní výrok.

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                  • angiebaby@mas.toA angiebaby@mas.to

                    @howking @danbrotherston @cabel

                    Smluvní podmínky a základní lidská slušnost mi zakazují vyjádřit mou nefiltrovanou reakci na tenhle debilní výrok.

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                    #65

                    @howking @danbrotherston @cabel

                    "U DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, UR JUST A HAAAAAAATER"

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                      #66

                      @rainynight65 @cabel Don’t think she knows what she’s saying..

                      The industrial revolution was about deskilling, removing power #labour used to have, and concentrating it in the hands of those who owned the machines

                      This is the same plan #AI industrialists have right now

                      It isn’t one bit worth to celebrate. No teacher worth their salt should be praising it

                      The #industrialrevolution plunged majorities of citizens into poverty for 4 generations before they took control back!

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                      • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                        @cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.

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                        #67

                        @howking @cabel Dude. Really.

                        History is **littered** with technology that was "here to stay" and was going to "change the world". **AI ALONE** has gone through at least four cycles of this hype in my lifetime alone!

                        LLMbeciles, in specific, are going to die a horrible death as soon as the fiscal gloves come off and be relegated to tiny niches like all prior AI did.

                        But go ahead. Ignore history. I'll just grab the popcorn and watch.

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                        • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

                          this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

                          when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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                          @cabel I didn't think she connects the dots on what either the booing or cheering is for

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                          • alpacamale@social.cologneA alpacamale@social.cologne

                            @cabel The companies building AI have told us for the past few years that AI can do our jobs better and cheaper than us and that it will replace us. This sounds great if you're an investor, but we are not investors. We are people who need to work to make ends meet and pay our bills. The vast majority of society is.

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                            @alpacamale @cabel It doesn’t ”do our jobs better”, but it does certain jobs better that used to be where juniors trained to become seniors.

                            This changes the job description in programming and art production to become more of a manager than a craftsman, which is already happening.

                            These new jobs have to them more of a mass-production vibe than making beautiful things.

                            They still need some high-skilled workers, but much fewer, thus corporates can now select for loyalty

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                            • cabel@social.panic.comC cabel@social.panic.com

                              this graduation speech moment is notable, and her amazed shock at having failed to read the room feels instructive.

                              when you’re inside the bubble, you think everybody else is. but everybody isn’t.

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                              #70

                              @cabel
                              Imagine going to university expecting to learn from the best the country had to offer, only to have top management parroting charlatans like Altman, Musk and Amodei.
                              What a letdown.

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                              • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                                @rainynight65 @cabel Don’t think she knows what she’s saying..

                                The industrial revolution was about deskilling, removing power #labour used to have, and concentrating it in the hands of those who owned the machines

                                This is the same plan #AI industrialists have right now

                                It isn’t one bit worth to celebrate. No teacher worth their salt should be praising it

                                The #industrialrevolution plunged majorities of citizens into poverty for 4 generations before they took control back!

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                                #71

                                @gimulnautti @rainynight65 @cabel What happened to all the shorthand typists? Would you dictate your toot to a typist so they could then put it on a noticeboard?

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                                • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                                  @cabel Here, too, you’re in an “AI-hater” bubble, but AI is here to stay—just as smashing machines didn’t stop the Industrial Revolution.

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                                  #72

                                  @howking @cabel this keeps being repeated, but who's going to pay for it?

                                  https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/goldman-sachs-spots-troubling-big-191300302.html

                                  From the article: "If hyperscaler capex growth in 2027 matched the 2026 pace, total spending would approach $1.4 trillion, far exceeding projected cash flows from operations of $980 billion, according to Goldman Sachs"

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                                  • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                                    @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                                    #73

                                    @howking

                                    No. Environmental destruction, resource capture, profiling and political advertising are all reasons for people hating AI.

                                    @danbrotherston @cabel

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      @cabel

                                      I can't imagine "the internet" getting boo'd like that in 2001 Grads would have cheered along for "internet"

                                      Or even like bitcoin in say 2010, lots of people were skeptical but would not have just boo'd

                                      This is remarkably unpopular.

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                                      #74

                                      @futurebird @cabel Well, I guess there are quite a few people in the audience who have been told that their just received diplomas may be decorative on their bedroom walls, but will not give them access to rewarding, well-paid jobs like they were promised 4 years ago ... soooooo ...

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                                      • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                                        @cabel @danbrotherston
                                        @pontus_k
                                        @tribactam
                                        @gulfie
                                        @Mikal
                                        @SmartmanApps
                                        @skjeggtroll
                                        @rubixhelix

                                        https://mastodonczech.cz/@howking/116546034787419575

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                                        #75

                                        @howking

                                        You had about half a dozen chances to participate in a calm and meaningful discussion and you blew all of them.

                                        I'm glad that this is quite a rare exception in the #Fediverse and I truly hope it stays like this.

                                        So how about you join in and come up with some arguments instead of calling sceptics haters?

                                        @cabel @danbrotherston @pontus_k @tribactam @gulfie @Mikal @SmartmanApps @skjeggtroll @rubixhelix

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                                        • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                                          @danbrotherston @cabel Just like AI haters aren’t opposed to the environmental and financial impacts of AI; they’re simply afraid of being replaced and don’t want to learn new skills.

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                                          #76
                                          @howking @danbrotherston @cabel actually we hate the whole range of pointless problems that AI is creating for us.
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